• Lightor@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Calling her “pro-genocide” might very much suggest to people that they should not vote for her.

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      2 months ago

      Point of fact, I called centrists pro-genocide, not necessarily Harris. Though it’s not like calling Harris pro-genocide would make any centrist less likely to vote for her.

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          2 months ago

          Not nearly as liberal as centrists have been for the past months with the “you don’t support genocide so you must be voting for trump” accusation. Which you don’t have a problem with.

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            Wow the amount of assumptions and speculation there. You’re not interested in an honest conversation huh?

            I find it interesting that people like you, who are “anti-genocide” can’t help themselves from telling others how they think and feel. Might be a hint that your stance is dishonest.

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              Wow the amount of assumptions and speculation there. You’re not interested in an honest conversation huh?

              Well, if you have a problem with the anti-genocide=trumper accusation, you’re certainly not raising that concern with those who are making it.

              Might be a hint that your stance is dishonest.

              If you have so much difficulty imagining having objections to genocide that you assume dishonesty, I don’t know what to tell you, and it’s not like you would believe it anyway since it comes from someone who has voiced opposition to genocide without immediately following it with “but.”

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                Well, if you have a problem with the anti-genocide=trumper accusation, you’re certainly not raising that concern with those who are making it.

                Ok, so in the absence of you knowing my stance you feel comfortable making assumptions. Seems like a logical path to truth. Ffs…

                If you have so much difficulty imagining having objections to genocide that you assume dishonesty

                You toss all nuance out the window to build this straw man. Genocide isn’t the only thing in the world happening. And like I said in my last comment the “but” is because context exists. We could enslave them all and that would fix the genocide. I can only assume you’re in favor of that because it would stop genocide, no buts.

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                  Ok, so in the absence of you knowing my stance you feel comfortable making assumptions.

                  You are comfortable saying that I called Harris pro-genocide, which I did not do. I said that centrists on lemmy are pro-genocide, which you took to mean that Harris is pro-genocide.

                  Genocide isn’t the only thing in the world happening

                  Both the article and the thread are about genocide.

                  And like I said in my last comment the “but” is because context exists. We could enslave them all and that would fix the genocide. I can only assume you’re in favor of that because it would stop genocide, no buts.

                  Wouldn’t be the only thing you’ve assumed about me that wasn’t true.

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      She is arming a genocide and refuses to stop. How is that not pro genocide? If accurately describing her stance drives people away maybe she should change it

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        Ffs people are so naive.

        And if she didn’t change it, you don’t vote for her and Trump wins how do you think that plays out? You think he really cares and will save more lives than Kamala.

        This is picking the least worst option and people are saying not to vote for her because of this. While Trump is saying if he gets in people will not have to vote again. Get the best choice in then protest the issue, but if Trump gets in it’s much worse.

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          Why can’t you just let people be angry about a genocide and the people that are responsible for it. We can’t help that speaking the truth about this enormous atrocity hurts the less evil candidate we have to deal with the fact that our government is supplying the means to murder children on a daily basis grow a fucking heart

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            Because addressing the problem the wrong way can make it worse. I don’t want it to be worse. Demonizing Harris and given Trump a better chance hurts everyone, Gaza included. I’m trying to step back and look at the big picture and far reaching implications.

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            You’re bitching about shit that you refuse to try to change. You’ve already admitted that you haven’t done anything to change the course.

            If you don’t tell anyone in power that you dislike a policy then no one will know you don’t like it. Most of you don’t want to tell anyone in power how you feel, so it’s just text in the wind.

            You only have yourself to blame.