• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m sure you’ll be that generous while you and yours live in streets.

    The Palestinians have been there iirc 7500yrs, Arab occupation predates organized religion as a whole. Also yes, dumb hypothetical though.

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      4 months ago

      Well you are dead wrong about that, Jewish people lived in Judea (modern-day Israel) for about 2000 years before being evicted by the Romans in like 300 AD or so. The Arabs did not enter the region until AD 700. So, all told not only did the Jewish people live in Palestine long before the Arabs did, they have also been living their longer.

      Does that mean that evicting the Palestinian people to found Isra was justified? I think no, and it has turned out to be a terrible mistake. But what is the difference really between the founding of Israel and your advocacy for evicting the Jewish people who live there now and returning it to the Palestineans?

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          4 months ago

          Wait so you’re saying the Jewish people of Judea/Kingdom of Israel were Arab? Genetically you kind of have a point (Palestinean people and Jewish are closely related) but culturally they are very different, at least since the founding of Judaism. But even if Jewish people were Arab, wouldn’t that mean that they have equal claim to the land with the Palestinians?

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            4 months ago

            No I’m saying the natives of the area predate religion as a whole being part of the world with the longest human occupation.

            Similarly some of the familial land that was seized was legitimately held by Arab Muslims since before the creation of any temple let alone their subsequent fall.

            Genetically an Arab Israeli and an Arab Jew who have both lived in the same area are within the margin of error for genetics, ie: they’re the same and you’re a scientific racist.

            There are Arab Jewish Israelis, it’s a thing. And yes they have equal claim to unoccupied land as any other citizen ( it should be noted stand aren’t full citizens in Israel). No one has the right to force you from their home, no one. I bet you cry for landlords too.

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              4 months ago

              I don’t really know what you’re saying with most of these points, I think you’re calling me a racist for trying to interpret your statement about the original Jewish settlers being Arab.

              I agree, nobody has a right to force you from your home. I strongly oppose Isreals settlements in the West Bank and their occupation of Gaza. I also oppose calls for their eviction from Israel. Can’t you see it’s the same thing? “But it was the Palistineans land first” you say- no, that is clearly untrue, Jewish people were living in Israel since the Iron Age, and it was the Arabs (and Romans) that evicted them.

              And what’s this about land being taken from Arab Muslims to build the Jewish temples? You do know that Jewish people were living in Israel since before Islam was a religion right?

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                4 months ago

                I’m calling you a racist because your using eugenics talking points about genetics to explain your shitty point.

                They aren’t at all the same thing, you’re taking like it’s been thousands of years when there are literally people alive who had their land stolen around 1946. That is factually incorrect, the natives that predate Judaism are the stewards of the land, even trying to call biblical Israel a Jewish nation is factually incorrect Ave both the talmud and the Bible back that up.

                I never said that, is English your first language because you seem to be fairly confused about straightforward comments.

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        4 months ago

        You say that like I wouldn’t agree dude, I’m native. Kick em out and me along with them if they so chose.