• Soup@lemmy.cafe
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    2 months ago

    People do nothing but incessantly complain about thing- yet still use thing. News flash folks; You’re never going to win this. YouTube will always be ahead of you on this.

    And also… I’ll never understand this. I use YouTube and don’t give a shit about ads. The moment they start bothering me- I’ll stop using YouTube. It’s that easy. Don’t like it, walk away.

    If you hate something so much, yet can’t stop using it- you have an addiction. Ads are not the problem here.

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      2 months ago

      I feel like there is an argument to be made about ads being put into damn near everything. They’ve become way too prominent in every aspect of daily life. There are so many things you cannot do without having an ad rammed down your throat. Youtube isn’t the best example of this, but if you start giving up things that have ads, you will eventually have nothing. The root problem is corporate greed. Line must go up at an ever increasing angle, and shareholders must make maximum profit. How do they accomplish that? Ads. Regulatory bodies must step in before everything we see in a digital spaces (and a lot of real spaces too) becomes covered in advertisements.

      Won’t be long before we go to the beach to watch the sunset, and there’s a floating billboard for mountain Dew covering it up. It’s out of control.

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        2 months ago

        So again, no one is going to win this. The only recourse is to stop using YouTube.

        That’s it.

        That’s how you win. You don’t play. But constantly whining about their practices while continuing to support their platform with visits is not doing the damage you think it’s doing.

        They will always be steps ahead of you.

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          2 months ago

          You didn’t really reply to my comment. You kinda just said the same thing again, but anyway.

          I guess we’ll just agree to disagree. You can use YouTube without viewing ads. There are ways around it.

          My point was, for the average consumer, there are way too many ads being put into everything, and unless you’re savvy enough to navigate around this, the only way this will change is with regulatory intervention, which can actually happen.

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          2 months ago

          to stop using youtube, to stop using your TV sized display that you have bought for a lot of money, stop using your car because it shows ads on the dashboard, public transport for the same reason, and the public roads too because every 10 meters there will be a billboard with even integrated tracking too.

          yeah, defeatism was never a solution

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            2 months ago

            If you don’t like YouTube, don’t watch YouTube. Your examples are fucking ridiculous because I’m not the one crying about any of those rings.

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      Silliest comment of the week

      People do nothing but incessantly complain about thing- yet still use thing.

      Go ahead and show the alternative, the alternative that has the content we need.

      Before you respond that youtube is an entertainment service, I want to remind you that it isn’t, but that it’s only a part of it. You won’t handwave it away as if we were discussing netflix being enshittified.

      I’m not using youtube for listening to music videos and such things, never were. When I end up there it’s because of a search result showing a relevrelevant video there, like disassembly of this or that, and such.

      News flash folks; You’re never going to win this. YouTube will always be ahead of you on this.

      That’s objectively false. uBlock Origin devs and filterlist makers are doing a very good job.

      Don’t like it, walk away.

      That’s very similar to saying “don’t like your government? don’t like it, walk away, found your own”.
      Yeah, that’s not his it works.

      I bet you would be the first to call those who abandoned youtube as cavemen for not being able to access some video you shared

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        2 months ago

        I don’t care if there’s an alternative. You’re not obligated to watch YouTube. It’s not a job.

        You can walk away.

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          Google constantly puts Youtube ads at the top of searches for information! Countless people put their information on Youtube in the form of videos! Tutorials get put on Youtube as a matter of course! There’s a trove of old media on Youtube that can’t be accessed any other way! Congratulations, you’ve won the award for the most thoughtlessly dismissive person on the internet today.

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            2 months ago

            Be sure to keep whining about their practices while supporting them to continue with it.

            It’s funny from where I sit.

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              how do we support it? how, when we don’t upload any content, we only give them server load instead of money, and don’t even increase the view count? how? if anything this is a loss for them, but not a gain that’s for sure

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                2 months ago

                So you don’t know how watching YouTube videos equate to profit for YouTube?

                Best you learn how that works before we continue this discussion further.

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      2 months ago

      I stay a few steps ahead of them. I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in months.

      Firefox with ublock origin on desktop / laptop

      Grayjay mobile app

      Smarttube on Android TV (also Flauncher customer launcher so I don’t have to see any ads on my TV home screen)