Organization seeks ‘immediate arrest’ of Trump and Vance over Springfield hoax
Fixed the title. I read nothing to suggest that Trump or Vance are currently in any danger of being arrested in Springfield, Ohio.
I know the hexbear community loves that comic. Where is it from and what is the context?
It’s from the Onion! The artist is Ward Sutton but he’s drawing the comics from the point of view of a character named “Kelly” who is a parody of an old right wing guy (according to the Internet) who hates political correctness, hence the exaggerated scenarios in the comics. The “haha yes” sickos guy (who I guess sometimes shows up in a thought bubble) usually feels like a parody of how the right views various left wing policies in that the comic overplays / exaggerates the disastrous effects of said policies (to make fun of how absurd those fears are) while the “leftist sickos” cheer on the disastrous results.
The comics basically make fun of how extremely the right views progressive policy and the sickos guy is kind of pointing out how absurd it is to view someone as bad faith (ie a sicko knowingly cheering on the disastrous effects of a progressive policy) who supports something as simple as green energy, drug legalization, or bike lanes. It’s fun to use as a reaction image to anything progressive happening because obviously wanting something like for example affordable healthcare obviously doesn’t make you a sicko. (Or in this case wanting a terrible person to actually face actual legal consequences for the harm they’ve done)
Thanks for explaining!
Yeah, they do not “face immediate arrest” there have been calls to arrest them, but they face nothing.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
It’s now a talking point, which is good.
It might not be true, but by golly people are talking about it which is what counts!
It’s very true. What are you talking about?
You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in your willfully ignorant face.
I’m sure that will work. “ONE SIMPLE TRICK THE REPUBLICANS DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT.”
Hang 'em both.
“there’s no room for political violence”
LOL /s
fuck both those ass holes
Silly billies. Don’t they know that the law doesn’t apply to rich people?
Still, good on them for trying and further bringing into the collective consciousness that this is the case.
Stochastic terrorism needs to have more severe criminal penalties for career politicians specifically. Right-wing figureheads have been getting away with this shit for too long.
We’re now penalizing the parents of school shooters, so if we find out that someone who threatens to bomb a school is a super fan of X person, then X person should face some sort of penalty if they continually put out deliberate lies about said school. We did a version of this with Alex Jones already, just follow through with that logic honestly.
Would love to see it happen, but I won’t hold my breath.
Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up!
Good on them for trying.
Tempted to remove as “Fox by Proxy” but here’s an alternate source which confirms the story and raises an excellent point:
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/g-s1-24436/haitian-group-charges-trump-vance-springfield
“If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”
Chandra said the U.S. Supreme Court’s July ruling granting ex-presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution does not apply in this case because Trump is currently a private citizen and Vance was not acting in his capacity as a senator when he amplified the rumors that members of Springfield’s 15,000-member Haitian community were eating people’s pets.
"If it were anyone else … they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”
Those two sentences don’t add up.
“They are not above the law” is the justification for calling for their arrest.
Yeah. “They shouldn’t be above the law.” works better.
They add up to “therefore they should be attested”.
@just_another_person@lemmy.world Looks like Rawstory heard the complaints and modified the headline on you.
The new headline is “Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield hoax”
If you could make this match, that would be great!
Ugh, Trump’s looking especially hideous in that picture!
As fucking if lmao
Leave it to democrats to take a question about basic decency that massively works in their favor, and turn it into a dubious question of whether a criminal law was violated beyond a reasonable doubt.
Lol WITF does that even mean? Leave it to Democrats to say the thing that people care about and promise to do something about it?
ARE YOU OKAY?
Maybe instead of resorting to exaggerated dismissals and suggesting I lack sanity, think about it for a minute because I think once you do, it’s pretty obvious.
What they should do about it is use it to win and keep Trump out of the White House. If they turn it into a criminal law issue it’ll confuse the matter and turn what should be an argument about right vs. wrong into legal vs. illegal. There exists a realm of behavior, quite a large realm in fact, of things that are deplorable but not illegal. Such as waving an ISIS flag, or walking around in a Hitler moustache and armband. That’s where Trump’s behavior fits.
This is why when a Nazi gets criticized, the first thing they do is cry “free speech”. Because by making it a legal matter, they’re picking the best hill for them to fight on. They skip the question of whether their behavior is reprehensible, and fight a battle they can win - whether it’s legal.
So if you want to do Trump the biggest favor imaginable, decide to fight this in the courts. Make the question “Is it legal to be racist” because we all know the answer is yes, and even if it wasn’t the courts (especially in red Ohio) are heavily in Trump’s favor and have repeatedly shown willingness to help him out. That way we can have a dismissal and headlines “Trump wins again” and pictures of him with a big smile on his face. See: Just about every past time Trump has been brought to court, or charged with impeachment.
What they should do about it is use it to win and keep Trump out of the White House. If they turn it into a criminal law issue it’ll confuse the matter and turn what should be an argument about right vs. wrong into legal vs. illegal. There exists a realm of behavior, quite a large realm in fact, of things that are deplorable but not illegal. Such as waving an ISIS flag, or walking around in a Hitler moustache and armband. That’s where Trump’s behavior fits.
they literally already tried to impeach him, twice over this. None of them worked because of republicans lmao.
Yes, which is why it’s bad to go where Republicans (legislators or judges) have all the power. Go to the media, hollywood, whatever. Why isn’t there a movie about the first Trump administration’s crimes yet? Go straight to the people.
the federal government was a complete mess after the end of trumps term. The supreme court is pushing out unconstitutional rulings that don’t even make sense for it to preside over. The congress is so mind fucked that it can’t even fix basic problems like immigration without impaling itself over it’s own knife. Courts are delaying rulings for no reason other than to push it beyond the election, these courts are also fraught with judges who should be barred (aileen cannon) republican figures themselves are literally lying about shit live on television to garner support for things that don’t exist. Springfield ohio is a terrible place to be right now. People who worked at dominion received constant death threats after fox news ran the dominion story, then got sued and settled for “defamation” as a fucking news company, do you realize how bad you have to fuck up to settle a defamation case immediately? AS A FUCKING NEWS BROADCASTER. Every politician that has ever slighted trump has had their career ruined, except for democrats, republicans really love to eat their own for some reason. I can keep going if you would like.
Trump barely managed to push any legislation through the government, he kneecapped basically every cabinet and group within the government (including the pandemic response one)
Regardless the rest of your comment is a diversion.
Why isn’t there a movie about the first Trump administration’s crimes yet?
there is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1NUXFfcoDs
and an accompanying two hour retrospective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPIedGtAJfw
there is another creator who has done something similar as well. https://youtu.be/gdstZDCCgAc
(relevant to the first two links) i can upload the entire stream on archive.org and post a link here if you would like, i have it archived myself.
and this is just jan 6th, if you were to compile EVERY thing that trump did throughout his admin, it would probably be hundreds of hours long. Not to mention the only reason why you seem to think a movie would be a good format for this, is because that’s how republicans are pushing modern propaganda these days.
the article is about the Haitian Bridge Alliance filing criminal charges because of the effects the “Haitian immigrants eating our dogs” lie has caused. This has nothing to do with party sides and everything to do with cause and effect. Jd vance openly said on tv that if he has to lie to get people’s attention then he’d do it, and now we’re seeing what happens when you mobilize a large part of the country to harass and discriminate against legal Haitian immigrants who are just trying to live their lives like anyone else.
Now as far as slander goes, the courts would need to decide if malice was involved in the statements that at least one of them has openly admitted to being* false.
Of course this could all just be avoided by not telling lies.
So this is the real reason why Trump cancelled his Springfield visit.
Trump’s scared that Vance’s family will eat Laura Loomer
I think she’d have more to be worried about with Robert Kennedy around talking to Trump. Trump is so easy to control and that dude needs help.
If you ever needed to plumb the depths of American bigotry, it’s Trump appearing on stage glad-handing a dog eater and then making up some bullshit about Haitians.
I thought it was when he had a public meeting at his home with a fucking self-admitted Nazi.
I don’t understand. Is Laura Loomer a brand of couch I haven’t heard of?
Yes. Please don’t research Laura Loomer any further