Nintendo has been actively taking down YouTube videos that feature its games being emulated or modded, which has sparked significant discussion and concern within the gaming community.

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    6 days ago

    So the switch itself emulates older consoles… I could have swore I remember reading something like the anniversary bundle that they put out for a limited edition had a emulator that someone made.

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    Nintendo is doing everything in it’s power to screw over gamers, yet people will still consistently be like “omg pokemon, hiiiiii 🥺” and buy their slop even when the games get worse every time.

    Like could you imagine if Microsoft did shit like this, the backlash would be huge.

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    It’s so nice to see all the Nintendo haters. I wonder if they’ve taken down any of my videos. I’ve gotten no notifications.

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        I’m pro fuck Nintendo, what boot?

        I literally run a project I’m waiting to get one of these legal threats about.

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          I think it’s how your first comment was phrased. It’s not 100% clear you are saying you wonder if Nintendo has taken down your videos.

          On first read it’s as if you wonder whether Nintendo haters will remove your videos. The benefit of the doubt is scarce on Lemmy, so people seem to have misunderstood your comment.

          • SlippiHUD@lemmy.world
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            Fair enough, I did mean Nintendo Haters as a compliment. It is the morally correct position.

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    7 days ago

    How about if I sing the Mario song for my fans… turns on the fans … we’re the Mario Brothers…

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    I have a hard time defending the YouTubers on this one. I mean, Nintendo has been pretty good about allowing older games to be played on its modern consoles. See VGC, the NES/SNES/N64 pass, and the multiple re-releases put out for the Switch. At some point just pony up the money or play the older games on a physical older console.

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          What’s the point of that? Nintendo isn’t getting any money from that sale so from their perspective it’s literally no different from emulation.

          If there is no legitimate means for you to purchase an original product from the company and give them your money then why the hell do they care if you’re emulating something they weren’t going to get money either way

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      See: Kaizo Mario directly inspiring Mario Maker.

      See: LttP Randomizer, along with literally any other randomizer.

      See: speedrunning streams literally making the market that Nintendo then sold the Nintendo World Championships cart into.

      Nintendo absolutely benefits from this. They just want to crack the whip and take over. Fuck them.

      Also, still can’t buy Mother 3. Double fuck them. Tons of titles play better on emulation. I shouldn’t have to justify it.

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      I mean at this point my attitude on Nintendo stuff is fuck em, I’ll play their games without paying (if I even feel like playing any of their games) because they deserve it.

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      It’s not the same thing? Emulation of older consoles improve and mod the experience. Upscaling, custom textured, etc

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    8 days ago

    With major releases like Tears of the Kingdom on the horizon…

    Internet Explorer?

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    7 days ago

    This is what we get because Atari fucked up with E.T.

    (Atari would be owned by Disney by now, and thus also evil.)

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    With all these news recently, you could think Nintendo wants to be hated. It’s truly shameful how the company has fallen since Iwata is gone.

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      All they have is their IP, they must protect it at all costs. Nintendo doesn’t even let Shingeru Myamoto wipe is own ass out of fear he will get hurt.

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      On the plus side, it makes me feel extra good when I load their games onto my hacked Switch! Echoes of Wisdom was fun, but felt really short. I would have felt cheated if I’d spent $60 on it.

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        I mean, its predecessor was a basic-ass remake of a ten hour, thirty year old Game Boy game that also cost $60.

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          I love that game, but I fucking hate the remake’s artstyle. Its completely put me off from trying Echoes even though the premise and gameplay of that one seem right up my alley.

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            I don’t mind the art style, other than the ugly-ass blur filter applied to the bottom of the screen. Fortunately, you can remove it if you’re playing it emulated or on a hacked Switch.

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      They still did this stuff under Iwata. It’s actually more of a Japanese thing than a Nintendo thing. Although the quality of stuff was better under Iwata

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      7 days ago

      Nintendo has gone after youtubers and content creators for 15+ years. They are infamous for it.

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      to be honest, 80% of their customers probably don’t even know what an emulator is and don’t follow news about nintendo

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    5 days ago

    Imagine being a long time Nintendo fan to end up being sued because playing their games (and sharing your experience with others) is now considered the same as stealing.

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    It sucks cause I really like the Mario Kart and Metroid Prime series and was hoping for more 3D metroid games, but there’s just so many other good games out there. Especially with Steam and the Steam Deck. I’ve had every nintendo console and handheld from the NES through the switch, but that’ll be my last console now that the steam deck exists and nintendo has become so hostile.

    However I do wish there were more devices like the wii sensor and wiimote/nunchuk. I’d rather PC gaming go in that direction than with VR gaming cause I really hate having to move my neck around with VR.

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      The Wiiimote and Nunchuk combo needs a little tweaking (maybe make the wiimote more like a nunchuk for ergonomics, give it an analog stick for coarse camera movement) but it was the most comfortable controller ever since I could place my hands in different positions relative to one another.

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      To your credit, Nintendo’s golden age is well behind them. Most of the best games they’re likely to ever make are already runnable on PC, especially since they’ve been kinda phoning it in for the last decade or so.

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    I’ve been gradually building up my Switch digital and physical library and stuff like this makes me want to just switch back to Steam and spend my dollar elsewhere.

    The strikes are absolutely frivolous and Russ sets a great anti piracy example for others. Backups of your own content are protected.

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        I’m going to stand by what Retro Game Corps stated that they don’t want to advocate for piracy. Lawful backup of your own games is protected. The aggression against Russ and others is uncalled for.

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      We won’t have much choices left it seems

      Sony: Greedy fucks who don’t know their customers anymore Microsoft: Kills off great studios then complains they have no games

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                I’ll give my own experience as a Steam customer and aspiring game dev:

                I’ve never had a problem with Steam that wasn’t quickly and satisfactorily resolved. Usually, in ways that go above and beyond Valve’s stated responsibilities. They have been quick to respond to the two hardware tickets I’ve raised over the years of owning a Steam controller, two Steam Links, a Valve Index, and my own Steam Deck.

                In the many years that I’ve used all flavors of Linux and installed all manner of native games and non-native games, it has only been in the last 4 or 5 years that the process has become, in my own experience, painless enough for me to not only consider suggesting other less technical people I know to try Linux, but to enthusiastically recommend it. They were the strongest single driving force I am aware of in bringing day-one mass-market release games to Linux.

                I have, over the years of my dealing with them, come to believe that money spent towards Valve is materially making my life better in ways that just playing games through Steam doesn’t fully encapsulate.

                They provide development assistance and funds for open source projects in a way that truly gives back to the projects they work with, their company is run in a way that I find personally satisfying and aspirational, their leadership feels like they’re maintaining their relevance in the industry instead of being disconnected money-men…

                I respect their decisions enough to consider their cut reasonable as compared to the services they provide both directly and indirectly to the PC gaming industry as a whole.

                • Pilgrim@lemmy.world
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                  I see why you have a positive view on Valve / Steam. However, while this can be the case for many people, it still doesn’t adress what is typically criticised.

                  One is that they take 30% of the money, which can be described as incredibly high, compared to other paltforms like Epic Games (12%). Is it justified just because they have the same service as any big company has? I don’t know.

                  I think there is much room for discussion about this, however, I won’t discuss it any further here, because brainless people just downvote my comment.

          • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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            Steam takes a lot of money for their service, which is a problem.

            They take the same amount of money as other console makers and the store cut is completely unrelated to what Nintendo’s lawyers do which is the actual topic here.

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                This isn’t a good argument, right?

                The topic is Nintendo who make a handheld console and unless CD Project make a GOGBoy with a bespoke SteamOS-like “console OS”, yet another storefront for Windows PCs is hardly an actual alternative.

                I also though of them because they recently improved their subscriber agreement (apparently not for selfless reasons but still an improvement esp. in the light of what Nintendo is currently doing).

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            You can play any games you want, though? Throw an emulator on there and play all your old games. Install non-steam games, add them to Steam using its very easy to use “Add a non-Steam game” button, and play as normal.

            Heck, if you don’t like Linux you can just install Windows on the thing.

            Steam takes a lot of money and then turns around and invests it into the gaming community.

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              I saw a review where it was said that you can only play steam games, but I just looked it up and apparently you can play all the other games as well by simply adding them or launching other launchers…

              Steam invest’s into the gaming community? Do you have any source for that so that I can read about that?

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                Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and it’s literally just a PC in the form factor of a Switch. It has a BIOS menu, you can install Windows on it (but you really shouldn’t), you can install a different flavor of Linux (I recommend Bazzite) – you can even install and play pirated Windows games through Proton, more or less fine, though you have to work for it a bit more.

                They developed Proton so that they could get Windows games working on the Deck, and the reason they didn’t make the Deck run Windows is they wanted greater control over the OS than Windows affords. Proton has benefited all gamers on Linux. More recently, they’ve officially partnered with Arch as of a few days ago (which is what SteamOS is built on): https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly

                and just to gush a bit more: the Deck is the only thing I can remember pre-ordering in the last 10 years and being genuinely happy that I did.

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                  And add to that the story behind DXVK, which was the turning point around 2018 for Linux gaming. Valve hired the guy who created it, so they could develop it professionally instead of as a hobbyist. With it remaining open source and free.

                  Yes, they do it because it helped them achieve what they wanted. But they don’t lock it down and they work with a lot of OSS which is then upstreamed.

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              They also use that money to pay their employees more than the industry average and to make their owner a billionaire that owns a yacht collection. They could 100% afford to take a smaller cut with only Gabe “feeling the impact”.

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            I don’t own a deck, but i know it’s way more then JUST a steam game player.

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              My fault, I watched a review where it was said that you can only play steam games, but I see that this isn’t true. You can indeed play all your PC games or whatever

          • june (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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            You can still install other game stores such as Epic or GOG and add games to the SteamOS gaming mode. Autoflatpak also works for that as well. I don’t have the steam copy of FFXIV but no issue, I added it to my library without issue.

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            My Steam Deck has a 512GiB SD card full of pirated games using lutris and sega genesis and nintendo ds roms on it. it is more comfortable to just buy stuff and play, which i do with titles that are worth it (thats the internal memory for), but you are not limited in any way (except that it has to work on linux)

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                to be fair, most of those “backups” are played once, if they suck they get thrown off instantly and if they are good they stay until the price point in the store doesn’t pain me anymore. so it’s really just a temporally displaced backup, you are right :-)

                ETA: “Doesn’t pain me” depends on the content: i did not shy back from buying for example Baldurs Gate 3 at full price. Indie devs normally get full price and automatically bought DLCs too, but i’m not into throwing my cash after the Bethesdas and EAs of the gaming world.