They needed a study to tell them that?
I don’t play multiplayer because I don’t want to be cussed out by a 6 year old.
I play games to have fun. I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone.
That’s why MMOs are fun because we don’t use voice comms for random people, just text.
I don’t play multiplayer because I don’t want to be cussed out by a 6 year old.
Or talked to. The younger, the more rude they are in chats.
Lol you’re right
Hit them with the “i tapped ya mum”
I would like playing with people more except I like to go slow and thorough and really savor the experience. No one else I’ve met plays games like that. I just end up feeling rushed when I play with others and it’s not fun for me.
In another news a month ago, it said, young gamers do no longer seek confrontation as much and therefore play less PvP games.
This one is very specific about teenagers, kids must be more common on roblox and fortnite experiences that aren’t as sweaty as the battle royale.
They’re out there. I played new world for the better part of two years all in mature, grown up clans. I think at one point we did have a 17ish year old that we all kind of ragged on but he was a good kid who eventually left for a more PVP focused guild. Recently I’ve been playing pax dei and the average age in our guild has got to be 50ish. We started out with a group of like 5-6 late 20’s-mid 30s folks but a long the way we ended up picking up around 15ish folks mostly 40-75ish? Retired gamers are here and if you need people to gather resources, craft and just chill while you roam the world dungeoning, I can’t recommend a better bunch.
I represent that remark. My son has a bunch of 30ish buddies playing enshrouded. Me and another late 50s retired guy are totally fine crafting and building and mining while they go out to pla :) Thats exactly how we phrase it “wheres the kids?, oh out in the woods playing”.
Awesome! We absolutely love y’all for it!!
For me it’s really a matter of mood and if my friends are available for something co-op.
I do have one PvP pleasure though and that’s Street Fighter. I can’t stand anything team based, but give me two characters on screen 1v1 and I’m all over it.
Yea, I think I would probably say I prefer single player or co-op games over multiplayer.
But I am pretty sure that I put more time into street fighter 6 last year than every other game combined. I do really enjoy my fighting games… But I can’t really stand to play any other competitive multiplayer genre.
For me I think Street Fighter (and most other fighting games) avoid all the most frustrating parts of PvP.
No teammates to worry about. Whether they’re bad players that need to be carried, or trolls, or just some raging screecher. They’re annoying more often than not in team based games, and even when they’re not usually they’re just… non-entities quietly playing the game. There’s little to no social engagement in modern team based multiplayer, so what’s the point?
Some people might find the lack of a team frustrating as that means there’s no one else to vent at or assign blame for a loss to other than yourself, but those people can piss off and keep playing their MOBAs. They’re just making the experience worse and I’m glad to have something keeping them away.Very well balanced. While I’m sure there are other balanced fighting games out there this is more specific to SF6. Capcom has done an incredible job balancing the cast. People like to talk about who’s top tier and complain about matchups they don’t like, but looking at the overall win rates online you can see that the best v worst character is only a 3% spread. Some individual character matchups are pretty wildly skewed, but I think that’s fine.
Both players have perfect knowledge. This is a big one, imo. Nothing is hidden from either player. You know where the other person is at all times, exactly how much health you both have, and exactly what resources. Losing to something you were not aware of is one of the worst feelings in any game, and most fighting games avoid it entirely.
Pvp games are more likely to leave me feeling angry after a session compared to single player and coop games where I’m more often ending the session happy.
I play KSP and Dwarf Fortress so I can do single player and still end feeling angry and frustrated
I mean yeah but Teenagers aren’t people.
They scare the shit out of me
There’s a horror movie about a couple harrased by kids during the stay at the lake. Might be right up your alley!
They could care less as long as someone’ll bleed.
Right? They are angry, physically enduring, strong. Luckily they’re also constantly horny and therefore stupid.
Unfortunately, they’re constantly horny and motivated to do stupid things.
“I know my unrequited crush will allow me to have sex with them if just do this really stupid thing.”
Coincidentally, teenagers are also the reason most gamers prefer single-player games.
I dont mind teenagers, it is the absurd toxic masculinity culture I hate, which isnt really a teenager specific thing in my experience.
There’s definitely an aspect of catharsis in showing that kind of person how much better at the video game you are though. I don’t play a lot of PvP but when I do, and everything clicks, I absolutely get it
I mean, you’re more or less correct although toxic masculinity feels pretty immature, and certainly more common with teenage boys. Given the number of muscle cars nearly running me off the road these days, I certainly agree they’re not all teenagers, though!
Gotta wonder if that guy who just said he slept with your mom on COD was really 30+ year old “alpha male” lol
I agree and I think a salient reframing of your statement is teenagers typically more than anything else want to be treated as adults, to be a teenager is to constantly be observing young adults and attempting to emulate their social behavior. So the question becomes why do we tolerate toxic adult conservative men setting such a cruel and hateful example that teenagers then copy and magnify?
What some teenager screams at you in an online match is just a shrill echo of the serious and dangerous ideologies modern (and not modern) conservatism is explicitly founded on and violently defends the “right” to spew everywhere in every context consequences be damned (the consequences being a feature not a bug).
This is a fact.
When I was late teens I played vanilla wow, but after adapting to adulthood, the idea of playing with or even talking to people decades younger than I am (with maturity to match age) has absolutely no appeal. I really want to play a lot of the multiplayer games out there, but don’t want to play with a bunch of asshole kids with nothing better to do than be assholes.
Face to face, maybe, because there’s a lot more context and social boundaries and stuff, but honestly I don’t even understand a lot of what they are trying to communicate at this point, and I honestly usually don’t care, so it’s not an appealing proposition at this point. That’s the full whole reason I don’t play ttrpgs anymore; can’t find an adult group and can’t stand to be around a group of 14yo boys.
It’s a shame, too. I don’t really mind playing with other people, usually PvE, but when you’re just so much more mature than they are the whole dynamic can be grating. PvP though? I’m not sure what’s worse, the shit talkers or the teammate griefers who throw a game for some silly reason.
That said, I met my wife in an MMO and you very much can make genuine connections with strangers on the internet. Just… You know, if you’re hitting 40 and they’re 14, the FBI might want to have a word with you.
Right from the start there have been adults only guilds in WoW though.
I just play them exclusively with friends and mute random people that get obnoxious.
That genuinely sounds like a good middle point, unfortunately it isn’t actionable for me as I haven’t any friends with whom to play. My humans have drastically different genre interests than I do, assuming they even game.
As someone who doesn’t play with friends either:
If the games don’t need communication to be good, play em anyway. Go for solo performance and if the team wants to whinge then it’s their fault for being mutable. I give everyone a chance, mute them if they spam or go squeaker, it’s honestly not that common to be an issue these days even in games like COD
I enjoy pvp games that I’m talented at. If I’m not good at something I tend to get down when I keep losing. Pvp is just really hard and bottles that feeling of helplessness.
I’m good at metroid prime hunter pvp… That’s it
I used to have the time to be good at PvP games. I used to have the reflexes too. Then I got older and PvP games left me behind, so I left them behind. Turning 40 this year
Well when I was a teenager I liked pvp games. Now I don’t. I assume when they’re adults some of them will feel the same, probably
i can confirm, im a fossil and i dont want to play with teenagers either
after i encountered more teens and kids in onlines one day i gave up, it never changed even as i tried to dabble in some again here and there
I love me some online coop, especially with friends. I even enjoy a few fighting games, like Tekken, although those are also more fun with friends.
Single player is pretty fun though, especially ones that are intended to be single player but have the option to do multiplayer like Valhiem and BG3.
I think it mostly comes down to how competitive people want to be. A lot of younger folks, including me 20 years ago, loved seeing ourselves on leaderboards even in team games. But over time the experience of getting immersed in single player or laughing about a shared experience in coop is just more fun that reminiscing about being at the top of a counterstrike match 15 years ago.
Plus some of us remember when skins and new maps were added to many games by the devs or through mods well before microtransactions became popular.
I have a big problem with internal validation. This makes most singleplayer experiences pretty meaningless to me. Antidepressants help, but only to an extent.
As a kid/teen, I only wanted to do online pvp. As I’ve gotten a bit older, I’ve found a lot not enjoyment out of coop. There’s still some competition, like dps charts in a raid, but it’s mostly the feeling of overcoming a challenge as a team that I look for now.
And as others have said, online coop is king. Love me some asymmetrical puzzle games.
I only enjoy multi-player with my wife. Our Valheim settlement and world progression is something beautiful to behold. Even vanilla WoW for me is solo or bust. I just don’t like people or Discord culture.
