Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023.
Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.
The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.
Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.
By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.
Hours later, she was dead.
Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency.
But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica.
Is there a database that collects these cases? I’m not from the US, but I think it would make a lot of sense to have a website that documents all those cases, so one could point people to it if necessary.
I imagine it would be a HIPAA violation for hospitals to release these details; you only hear about the ones that the individual families decide to make public by speaking to journalists…
…so it’s even worse/more common than you think.
It sucks to be surrounded by enemies.
Every bit as hostile towards normal folks just trying to live their lives as an invading army. Minus the government doing anything about it.
Around 1 in 5 pregnancies, that’s 20%, end in miscarriage. There’s a bit of a genetic lottery that is random within this crazy sensitive process of creating a baby. You can be doing everything right, but it doesn’t matter. You can lose the pregnancy and many do. And then, statistically, their next pregnancy is healthy and without complication.
There’s no fault to a person in this progress, just like there’s no fault to how a flower grows - some have more pedals, some have crooked stems, some never grow and stay seeds in the ground. Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Ignorance and fear rule the red areas on the US map. Of course those red areas are populated predominately by trees, lakes and mountains, all of which are likely more intelligent and empathetic than the few frightened human voters spattered throughout that share that very rural landscape.
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy
Texas didn’t kill her for loosing a pregnancy - Texas killed her by making her losing the pregnancy take too long by terrifying doctors out of speeding the process along, causing her to be in and out of hospital ERs repeatedly while doctors essentially played “hot potato” with her despite all of them knowing what needed done out of fear of being thrown in prison for a century if they did it, causing her to eventually develop sepsis and die.
It’s much, much worse than “killing her for losing a pregnancy”, and exactly how awful it is and how it got to that point needs to be spelled out in detail. Otherwise you’ll have people pointing out that the Texas law has an exception for medical emergencies, and it needs pointed out and doubled down on that by the time the doctors were reasonably certain that a conservative Texas court would agree with them it was a medical emergency (aka she’d already developed a systemic infection), she was already doomed.
The sentiment is there, but 1 in 5 ending in miscarriage is not 1 in 5 that would be deadly if a miscarriage happened.
Also, that number is known miscarriages (and is the high end i believe of the range). Even more happen before the mother even knows they are pregnant.
Part of the reason you don’t tell people before the first trimester is over is because miscarriages before are common.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy? The extreme of what’s on the table being discussed is that Texas wants to overtly punish people for not being perfect fetal vessels - denying needed medical care and charging for crimes if they accuse that a miscarriage was coerced as determine by unqualified, backward religiously driven opinion.
As you raise the point though, that “would be deadly” mention is dependent on the unknown of what happens when you deny basic medical maintenance to “common” conditions. Many miscarriages require medical abortion, regardless of how “smooth” they progress, to clear any remnants of the fetus from the uterus and avoid complications and dangerous bleeding, infection, etc that could harm that person or their womb and decrease chances of successful implantation, pregnancy and birth in the future, if desired. It’s a horribly painful and emotional process, something that nobody enters into lightly and that often is required for willing parents to be having difficulty conceiving and dealing with that loss, on top of everything else mentioned.
Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy?
Ummm dude
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
You totally did, and this is what triggered my response.
What are you talking about, friend? I feel like you have a fundamental disconnect here… Do you not know what “akin to” means?
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Akin to
very similar to something
Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is very similar to having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.
Your equating the 1 in 5 miscarriages to having a 1 in 5 chance of death but 1 in 5 miscarriages do not have a chance of death very similar to being shot if you roll a 4 on a 5 sided dice which is a 1 in 5 chance of death.Edit: Just cleaning this up as what I wrote got confusing…
Your saying that 1 in 5 pregencies have a miscarriage (20%) and equate a miscarriage that happens 1/5 times, to being shot 1/5 times which would be death. But an (edit untreated) miscarriage doesn’t mean death. So it is not very similar to having a 1/5 chance of death by being shot.
Maybe you don’t know what you wrote?
I mean, Texas wants to make miscarriage a murder charge and they are a death penalty state, so there’s that. There’s some hyperbole to make a point in original statement, but If it makes you feel better, Texas is currently forcing you to play Russian roulette if you land on that 4 - doesn’t change the spirit of the point being made. A gun is being put to your head with a meaningful chance of death.
You’re arguing semantics here to avoid discussing the substance. Say something meaningful about the actual point or shut up at this point.
I love how post something very wrong, challenge it twice and ask if i even know what some words mean, which you clearly didnt, and then wave off how wrong you are and tell me to shut up.
I even said the sentiment is there.
What a jerk, you must be fun at parties
Where were all the pro-lifers? Oh, that’s right, they only care about you before birth. My mistake.
Literally just had an argument with a born again Christian who didn’t want tampons in bathrooms… because tax payers would have to pay and it was the parents responsibility
This guy though has no problem with collecting the pension from tax payers or the church not paying tax.
So he’s fine if we remove all toilet paper from bathrooms. How he wipes his ass is his parent’s responsibility right?
Funny you mention that, because that’s actually the argument I brought up.
Even better , toilet paper is stored in the dirtiest part of the bathroom. Tampons they can store at the sinks
Sad thing is that these stories don’t seem to get in front of the people who need to hear them. The media censorship in right wing media is as aggressive as the media censorship that they think exists in traditional media outlets.
Even If it did… They don’t care, it’s all pretending. But if a MAN would die? Oh that would be intolerable!
Right wing media convinces their viewers that any media which conflicts with their viewpoint is fake news. This perspective is super alarming because it makes it super hard to construct an argument when every set of proof is considered a lie and propaganda.
These same people see school shootings and just think kids dying is the price for their right to bear arms, and they don’t care. I don’t think many of them have the conscience left in their empty Godless souls to care about women dying needlessly if it means their doctrinal nonsense can be imposed on everyone.
Another accusation that masks an admission? I’m shocked!
Monstrous. Just monstrous.
Fuuuuu, imagine dying like this. That poor girl.
The absolute terror she must’ve had in her mind, while being in a hospital too. The place that should help her, just feeling absolutely powerless and probably begging for help while life is slipping away. Imagine what she sees in the faces of the people she’s asking for help from.
Terrifying.
This is the future the Republicans want.
Hate to be that guy, but it is also the present (hopefully not future) the Democrats have allowed Republicans to build:
Bill Clinton promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t.
Obama promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law. He didn’t despite having a super-majority in his first two years.
Biden promised to codify Roe v. Wade into law and didn’t. The Dobbs decision was taken in June 2022, so before the midterms when Democrats still had a simple majority in the house and a tie + VP in the senate. When there were rumors/leaks a month or so before the decision that the USSC would take that decision soon. Again: Inaction.
Reagan gets the blame for 9/11 by not passing Federal laws that help to keep hijackers off of planes.
Yes, they had many chances and failed. But these new laws are NOT anyone’s fault but republicans.
They didn’t fail. They didn’t even try. Not even with a super-majority.
I am sick of such important issues like health of people, let alone half the population, being used as mere strategic play. So please push them to do the right thing, after they’re elected. They don’t seem to respond without pressure.
I’m sure you’re more politically astute than Obama or Pelosi but even with a supermajority Roe v. Wade wasn’t predicted to be murdered under the administration of a russian plant who spiked FBI investigations into the corrupt justices the republiQan controlled Senate waved through after they lied and claimed they though of Roe as settled law.
Democrats are absolutely to blame for not fighting harder, absolutely, but overturning Roe was not supposed to get any support much less 75% of all republiQan women who have had multiple opportunities to oppose it and do not. If one is to legislate like one should many, many, many things would need to change.
My point being it’s not as simple as you make it. And when people jump to “yeah but Democrats are to blame” I know we’re usually already in Bad Faithville. Both Sides and all that. NO.
And when people jump to “yeah but Democrats are to blame” I know we’re usually already in Bad Faithville. Both Sides and all that.
Just no. This is not about both sides in any shape way or form. This is about agency. Fact is: There were ways to do this and the last three Democratic presidents (including the sitting president) have campaigned and outlined plans to codify it into law and didn’t. Yes it may have taken people by surprise that the country and the world is regressing as early and fast as it is, but that doesn’t take away agency, especially when they didn’t even try to spring to action after mere lip service to garner votes.
The thing is: The conservative, religious right, openly formulated and has been following their plan of judicial activism for decades. The lower courts haven’t become this biased towards Republican policy over night. It was due to bad luck, bad faith acting of McConnel and the other Republican senators and stubberness of some involved people on the other side of the aisle that Trump was able to nominate this many people to the USSC. It would have happened at some point.
But also the present that Republicans have forced upon us.
It’s the present in multiple states. It’s the future they want for the entire country.
And the present the current government is also fine with.
The US healthcare system is pathetic and massive dumpster fire. I’m certain the treatment Candance received was based on her healthcare insurance. The mother should file a lawsuit against the hospitals, Texas and the fucking red politicians who support the cheap shit insurance companies.
Conservatives cannot see women as humans. Equality is incompatible with the hierarchy the conservative worldview is built upon.
We all predicted this would happen because we have a basic understanding of the world and a smidge of empathy. Unlike Republicans.
Ahhh shit. It’s a young attractive white girl. They might actually pay attention to this one. Maybe…
No they usually abuse them so they wanna keep that under wraps, like the Catholic priests they kept moving from church to church instead of sending to the cops.
No, Fox News prefers to talk about the Democrat villains or the Haitian scapegoats instead.
Not married, though, so I wouldn’t count on it.
Stop saying “died” - Another woman was MURDERED by ignorant texas bigots in their government and spiteful, irresponsible, freedom-hating voter base.
cruz, abbott, patrick, gohmert, cornyn and cock-eyed Ken the AG, along with trump, corrupt SCOTUS majority and the whole gop giving them cover, are soaked in this woman’s blood.
She was a white woman, literally named heaven HEAVEN backwards, and she’s still dead, you absolute cowards that voted to enable this. Y When will you realize that you’re not safe from this, you’re not different, you’re not “one of the good ones” that will see some protections others won’t. Go have someone read a short poem to you, commonly referred to as, “first they came for”. There will be plenty of words in there you don’t understand, but the gist is, YOU OR YOUR DAUGHTER ARE FUCKING NEXT UP - this dead teenager, who never saw her 20th birthday, is the latest Handmaid they throw on the wall as an example to others of what’s coming.
There won’t be an official announcement when christian fascism takes over your area or else there would have been one a while ago.
Working as designed…by fucking ghouls
And necessary lose to keep feeding new workers into capitalism.
