• shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
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    I quickly googled this and mostly found sources like Fox News or Times of India that follow some agenda.

    So here’s a Guardian article on the topic in case anyone was wondering about a commonly known source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/09/proposed-iraqi-law-change-would-legalise-child-say-activists

    Basically there are some religious hardliners that are in the pocket of Iran that want to reduce the marriage age to 9 which would effectively end up in legalizing child rape. Opponents of this are being accused of „western decadence“. So basically after the destabilization liberation of Iraq politics are dominated by the same people that run Iran.

    The people suffering enjoying their liberation are the normal people as usual.

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      Opponents of this are being accused of „western decadence“

      Those damned hedonists indulging in the luxury of… checks notes… keeping their dicks out of kids.

      So basically after the destabilization liberation of Iraq politics are dominated by the same people that run Iran.

      I mean, they were destabilized liberated by the same people…

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    I understand that Saddam Hussein was a terrible man. But it sucks that support from his opposition is what helped push this. They’re not bad because they are Shia; they are simply the worst of the people that opposed Hussein. This is what happens when you prop up puppet governments. The rights of the people aren’t important to the puppeteer.

    Tl:dr: Even with Saddam Hussein’s death, Iraq never got its freedom.

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    It’s The Religion of Peace, you see, which in looking the other way, in no way infantilizes the entire culture, which is good, because they’re marrying the girl infants away

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      Sure the west and their settler colonialism massive resource extraction and so on is great. And its not like the many religious problems against say homosexuality in christian Africa can’t be directly be blamed on christian missionaries. And its also not like poverty and brutal attacks on secular nationalists in the middle east in the name of fighting communism has anything to do with modern political Islam. No sir.

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          That is clearly a reach given the statement “thinking the west has a better way is colonialism” is a massively ahistorical racist take.

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          You could have left colonialism out of it. You brought the western shit into the discussion. If you just said the west has better age of consent, everyone would agree.

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            No, I was making the point that it’s currently popular to shit on the West exporting its ideals, but when it’s something as blindingly obvious as “maybe 9 year old girls shouldn’t be forced into marriage” then maybe on this one occasion that sense of superiority is well placed and necessary

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        [citation needed]

        State a single mainstream western political movement in which marriage at 9 is not complete insanity

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          Age of consent to sex, not marriage.

          https://www.ageofconsent.net/world

          According to this, it looks like the closest country to this age of consent is Nigeria, at 11.

          If you want age of marriage, in the US, looks like four states will let you marry at any age, but require special conditions like parental approval or court approval:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States

          California, Utah, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.

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            Nigeria is not “the West”

            Child marriage in the US is rare, in sharp decline and is heavily skewed towards poverty and Native Americans. Numerous political movements exist to raise minimum marriage age to 16-18.

            So again, name a mainstream Western political movement where marriage at 9 is not insanity

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              Nigeria is not “the West”

              I didn’t say it was. I’m just indicating wherevthe floor is.

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      If they can consent to extra sprinkles on their ice cream, they can be child sex slaves.

      (Edit: I just wanna say I’m so glad I didn’t need the /s for people to… Wait, I hope people aren’t actually agreeing with this)