• sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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    22 hours ago

    Once genz matures, public opinion on Israel will shift. I hope Israel enters the “and find out” stage.

    Fuck 'em, disgusting parasites leeching on US might to commit a genocide. Americans will pay for this too…

    next 9/11: why would anybody do this to us 🤡

    sad reality many of us did not sign up to fund the genocide but AIPAC was able to infiltrated state and corpos from within while avoiding foreign agent registration.

    our spooks are fucking useless…

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    13 hours ago

    How do you people propose to call them? Expansionists? Colonialists? Genocidists?

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      All tech companies eventually enshitify and we would never be able to remember all of them if they all became slurs. Lol

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    11 hours ago

    I really don’t like the censorship of speech from either side. People have a right to choose their own words and suffer the consequences for the words they choose.

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    21 hours ago

    sooo twitch declares the Zionist movement offensive? and should only discussed in sn academic sense? /s

    wow twitch, very brave!!

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    22 hours ago

    Is this why we should not delegate the control of hate speech to the state, because it will always blow up in our faces?

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      15 hours ago

      Jewish Supremacism was the instigating lobby for such laws. They wanted to enable other “supremacist liberal-themed” movements to take advantage, and hopefully ally, with Zionism. Me too, at the height of the cultural wars, essentially was representing that women can never lie.

      An inherent problem with equality, awareness for oppressed groups, advocacy is that the advocacy never stops at equality. The ADL is canonical example of supremacist overreach.

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        14 hours ago

        I am not subscribing to this bullshit, and I am sad my comment enabled you to spew it out. “Me too” was a valid and necessary movement to combat sexual assaults that were institutionalized in many industries and protected by law enforcement and judicial authorities. Many prominent figures went rightfully to jail for sex crimes, and the proportion of women lying about it is rather small to make a political argument off it. Tracing back “liberal-themed supremacy movements” to Jewish supremacism sounds to me quite close to Nazi conspiracy theory, to take any of this seriously. I am sorry this reached my feed, and I can’t wait to engage the likes of you in combat.

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          sorry to be triggering, but there is a link between zionists using “Jews have a history of oppression” linking to “everything a zionist says is true” is a related tactic to “empowerment advocacy” doesn’t stop after equality achieved. Hate crime legislation was sponsored by zionists, but they welcomed allies into broadening protections. Flipping out over the comment is a supremacist tactic.

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    16 hours ago

    Waiting for the free-speech absolutists to boycott twitch for this (they won’t)

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      9 hours ago

      One of the orchestrators of this whole thing, Destiny, defends child porn and the use of slurs.

      Ironic is putting it lightly.

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    22 hours ago

    The same way I don’t think we should capitulate to framing “cracker” as a slur, or to framing “black lives matter” as a racist thing to say, I don’t think we should capitulate to framing things like “from the river to the sea” or “zionist” as antisemitic.

    But, as a thought experiment, let’s indulge in this doublespeak trash. What is a good alternative? So far I’ve got:

    • Israeli colonizers
    • Jewish supremacists
    • genocidal sacks of shit
    • Israeli apartheidists
    • Isreal expansionists
    • Israeli warmongerers
    • people in favor of the genocide and apartheid committed by Israel (in full, every time you need to say zionist)
    • modern day nazis
    • zionazis (technically not zionist!)

    So all of this liberal crybaby nomenclature trash aside, I actually do think “zionist” is in itself a fairly useless term for the Israeli apartheid question (as Norman Finkelstein and Judith Butler do too). While one faction of zionism pursued the nakba and massacres from fairly early on, and while this faction has been quite successful, there are other notions of zionism which do not entail murdering children or colonizing a country. When Netanyahu and Chomsky can both legitimately refer to themselves as zionists, I think it’s clear that zionism is too broad a term to be useful in the current ongoing genocide and the ethnic cleansing that has been going on for the better part of a century.

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    They already banned a swathe of pro-palestinian political streamers in the run up to the US election, so this is likely retroactive reasoning.

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      From the link of this post that you could have clicked on:

      Twitch specifies this is conditional: you’re allowed to discuss the political movement of that name, but not “attack or demean another individual or group of people on the basis of their background or religious belief.”

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        but not “attack or demean another individual or group of people on the basis of their background or religious belief.”

        Yeah, how dare people try to demean someone just because they checks notes hold dehumanizing beliefs and support a government and movement bent on removing the people from their land so they can steal it and build new homes while ethnically cleansing the existing population.

        smh my head.

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    Twitch has become garbage anyway. I’m more on Kick for streams nowadays.

    Anyway wasn’t “Zionist” suppose to be a good term for these murderers? Whether they make it a banable word, screw them. Those who defend Israel, their genocidal actions and claim that the land “belongs to them, the colonizers” are Zionists.

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      Twitch is garbage, so you moved to a platform ran by a gambling company, where rules practically don’t exist, and the majority of the userbase is vehemently sexist and racist? That’s a level of mental gymnastics I genuinely will never understand

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      Even technologically Twitch has always been shit. For all the hate YT rightfully deserves, I’m kinda glad they just said “ok we do livestreaming now too” one day and it works so much better. Simply so I never have to go to twitch ever again.

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        The issue with YouTube is, I don’t see many people on it to Stream (or I just don’t look in the right direction?). I barely to not use Twitch these days, sometimes Kick but that’s about it.