• Freefall@lemmy.world
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    I am not fan of RFK or any of this incoming administration, but I have to admit…those are going to be the most productive camps in the entire world! 🤣

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    I think this is how they plan on making up for immigrant labor.

    But lol if you want systemic food shortages this is a great way to go. Farm labor isn’t easy, it can’t be carried out by someone who is addicted enough to the point that they need this farm to get better. Farm labor needs to be reliant and self-directed, and drug addicts are not reliable and can barely direct their lives.

    People on depression or adhd meds are not necessarily drug addicts. I can’t believe we have such incompetent people in charge now.

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      The plan to make up for immigrant labor is prison labor. Tank the economy, further criminalize homelessness. Wouldn’t be shocked if debters prisons make a big comeback.

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        Seems the country is being run by lunatics, not sure how America is going to survive this. There’s no such thing as a planned and controlled economic collapse, wonder what happens if another country pounces on America while it’s trying to recover. All of this seems like a bad idea for national security too. What a mess.

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          We’re not going the survive it…The dumb fuck poor morons in the cousin fucking parts of the country seem miss that the rich want to remove all roadblocks to completely taking literally everything we collectively worked for as a nation. It’s rich taking everything from the poor, and the ignorant racists are too excited to be racist they miss they’re being FUCKED too.

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    So they’re just already saying the “camps” part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler’s playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

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    Wow, I’m so glad this dipshit who’s never had to work a day in his life could give this paternal wisdom to the plebs who might need this medication to retain employment and not die destitute in the streets.

    Who knew they just needed to be sent to a farm upstate so they could run free forever and ever?

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    Is he not aware that the fascist pumpkin he will be working for pops those like breath mints?? Please do send that rapist con man to a labor camp.

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    When it comes to the brainworm guy - if he really plans on banning vaccines - is he trying to kill off all the old people? Is he trying to kill off all the children?

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    Technically people do owe taxes on revenue from illegal activity. You certainly could put a tax on something that’s illegal, I just don’t think it would bring in much revenue I’d you’re still prosecuting people for that same thing you are taxing.

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    Just sounds like torture camps people voluntarily go to. Why would they remain voluntary? These people think public facilities that give out small doses to prevent people from dying from withdrawal and needle dispenseries to prevent STIs are immoral, so we all know it’s torture. This is obvious whether you read the article or not for all of the nuance trolls.

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      My therapist encourages me to reparent myself, by which they mean that when I remember something fucked up from my childhood I should try and imagine what would have happened in a loving and supportive environment. Also, they also encourage me to give myself experiences I missed out on as a child. Yes, I sleep with a plushie and it’s awesome.

      I have no idea what RFK, Jr means. Sounds like brainwashing.

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    This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with “trouble teens”. In recent years I’ve seen reports of these “farms” for “distressed” women. It’s usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

    Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

    https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

    https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

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      Are these the same people that abduct teens at night and bring them to these camps where they die of dehydration?

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        Those are more like wilderness survival training, except nobody in charge has any wilderness survival training of their own.

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          He mentioned SSRIs in the article. Now I’m imagining a bunch of PTSD infantry combat vets laughing their ass off at the instructor.

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    I wonder if commenters here went beyond the headline, or bothered to read the quote in the comments.

    The actual quote is not remotely as sinister. He said that he will start these community farms (which is not a labour camp for f sake) where addicts (which is not everyone who takes meds, it’s those who do but shouldn’t, of which there are thousands) can voluntarily choose to go, which is a far cry from “I’ll shove anybody who takes antidepressants into a labour camp” as the title suggests.

    There are a lot of people who take meds from dealers instead of doctors, who may have started recreationally but are now addicted to them. This is what he is lumping together with other kinds of drug addicts. It’s not even that stupid, it has been shown in studies that addiction is more effectively addressed by giving the person meaningful things to do.

    Now you can have your opinion on this idea and you can be skeptical of his implementation and you really should, the guy is a nut job who shouldn’t be allowed within ten kilometres from a government office - but sending regular joes to concentration camps because they take meds is not what he said.

    This title is rage bait, don’t fall for it.

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      Yep, this sounds like the harm reduction approach that the left has been advocating for. It sounds like these are alternatives to prison for people with addictions. Not saying he’ll be able to make it work, but “tax cannabis + harm reduction” is much better than what a lot of Republicans’ drug policies are.

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        The problem is:

        • RFK wants to ban legal medications and his multiple other statements make it clear he thinks organic food can replace them. That’s creating clear harms for people.
        • He may envision this as a voluntary commune but in reality once he has government backing these could be something non consensual. We already have NYPD forcing people into homeless shelters involuntarily. It’s worrisome coming from an openly authoritarian administration.
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          I don’t disagree with either of those points, I just don’t think they’re supported in the article. That’s why it’s rage bait.

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          RFK wants to ban legal medications and his multiple other statements make it clear he thinks organic food can replace them. That’s creating clear harms for people.

          Can you provide a source for this? I have seen RFK claim vaccines are harmful, but the above seems inaccurately broad. RFK’s criticism of vaccines seems to stem from a misguided goal of “proving” they are safe. I suspect his definition of “safe” does not match the FDA’s. For example, aspirin causes many deaths and injuries each year (aka “not safe”), but I haven’t seen RFK moving to ban aspirin.

          The belief that proposed government funded “wellness farms” would mutate into prison camps where citizens would be confined seems needlessly paranoid to me, but you can be as scared as you want. If there was a prediction market available on whether RFK would involuntary confine American citizens to prison camps in the next 4 years, I would gladly bet against that eventuality.

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      Sad that I had to scroll all the way to the bottom to find someone who actually read the article. Has Lemmy become reddit?

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      Yeah honestly it sounds like a government program I’d support if it was proposed by someone like Barack Obama. So 🤷. I hope it’s successful and that they look at introducing more government-led programs and initiatives for people in need (I’m not holding my breath)