Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux’s permission prompts
Finally! =D
Sorry but I don’t really care about discord news on Linux…
Me too, yet we click and decided to reply.^^
I’m happy for others, plus it makes life easier for those who expect a working Discord like on Windows.
Absolutely okay but we shouldn’t be specially happy of discord being well integrated in Linux. The only good point is that it helps to grow the reach of Linux to mainstream users
Right on! People should only share news articles that pertain to my interests.
I reply here :
Discord is related to linux as much as the facebook app is.
It’s related because it’s news about discord changing something related to linux
Well, except perhaps for the fact that Discord has a Linux version, while the Facebook App doesn’t.
And—clearly!—it seems rather popular as well.
I do
I encourage you to switch to better interests
Okay, great, now convince 30+ other people I chat with on the service
Yes I know it sucks and will just keep on enshittifying, but it’s not so much as it being a replaceable social media for me, as it is a primary way for me to keep in contact with partners, friends, finding out about and participating in arrangements, and meeting new people in my local area. Stopping using discord is effectively cutting myself off from the local communities
Everyone in my social circle uses it, and will keep on using it. Maybe once some breaking point is reached due to ever increasing enshittification people will start being interested in alternatives, but we’re far from that point still
Show them the link and encourage them to move to better platforms
I can’t even get them to use mastodon or Lemmy, they’re not gonna go to an alternative discord
and matrix doesnt have a functional voice call across clients atm
Discord is not as good and accessible as you may think. Most matrix homeservers aren’t going to ask you for phone verification, some don’t even require a mail. You can always join yourself and find other friends there.
Show them the link and encourage them to move to better platforms
Ah yes, the old “I care so little that I had to tell you”.
Did they also finally fix the AFK detection on Wayland?
I’m not sure if this is actually possible - as far as I know, applications can’t track key presses/mouse movement when their associated window isn’t in focus. It’d be great if they just gave the option to disable the AFK detection since it doesn’t work…
What happens now in afk detection? I never noticed it.
Haven’t used it in a while but from what I remember it always puts you in idle if you do something else and only back to online if you do something in Discord itself, as expected from the Wayland limitation.
It could be implemented with the ext-idle-notify-v1 protocol.
In my case it refused to ever mark me as idle, which meant I never got any notifications on mobile…
Works fine with a plugin, so clearly it can’t be that hard.
Ah, I thought this was in regards to AFK tracking when discord isn’t focused (which this plugin still won’t fix due to the mentioned Wayland restrictions) - I didn’t realize that it still didn’t work even when discord was focused, which is strange.
I’ve been using Vesktop since screen share wasn’t working on Wayland, and it already seems to do what this plugin does hence my confusion.
Vencord has had it forever. Just a community discord flathub.
Third party discord clients keep letting me down, not updating their electron version and breaking my system updates cause it’s marked insecure
Browser version with extensions is the way to go
Would you clue me in on what kind of extensions you use and why they’re better that the discord app?
Stylus for theming, vimium for navigation
It works a lot better than the discord app, more responsive for one. Ctrl k on the app takes a few seconds, takes half a second on web
Multiple instances at once without any hassle is nice, the ability to open links in the same window instead of having it open a browser somewhere (tiling wm with discord in a pop up layer)
Seems to be less resource intensive I assume because no electron wrapper running, just Firefox which I already have open anyway
Plus the main one is that because it’s not using electron I don’t have the constant drama with insecure electron versions, also if discord forces an update and your package manager doesn’t update you just can’t use discord for a few days until it catches up
For some reason my screen share freezes for others on vesktop.
Yeah, I’ve been using Vesktop/Vencord all this time. Has more features than Discord with Nitro. No reason to really switch back to the official client.
Finally
What about audio sharing?
also works, although it says audio “may not work in certain instances”
Awesome!
Yes.
Audio sharing works, but appears to not allow selection of a specific audio stream, when I tested it just then it appears to share system audio. Vesktop still allows you to choose a specific stream. Still, this is a huge improvement over not working at all, and the “Entire Desktop” (3 screens) works, as well as “select region” sharing!
If you’re using Pipewire, have you checked if you can re-route the audio sink using qpwgraph?
For me audio sharing doesnt work at all haha
This is past due, I use Vencord.
About fucking time
When do they stop selling user data? Next patch?
Just use spacebar instead
Nice! Thank you
Spacebar doesn’t even do voice calls does it? Let alone screen share
Yea Its not perfect, but hopefully on the way
It’s not ready for most people unfortunately
they say they dont sell any user data, although i have my doubts about that
A bear doesn’t tell you it shits in the woods.
it would if itd get sued by forest conservation groups if it didnt admit it
It doesn’t really matter if they do or don’t. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.
Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?
They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.
They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.
They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.
They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.
I know, I know…crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!
i think you’re totally right, i just dont like people saying theyre doing it right now.
Frankly i think we should use matrix instead, but it just isnt good enough yet
Yeah, Matrix is a very, very hard sell. I mean, “normal” people (for lack of a better term) are put off by Mastodon, and Matrix is a hundred times more complicated to join. I’m also not sure what it would look like to use Matrix the way I use Discord. Perhaps there is functionality in Element/Matrix I have never explored since I use it more for messaging and group chat, not for communities with multiple channels like IRC/Discord/Slack.
In any case, Discord is too entrenched to be replaced by something that is merely technically superior, or even more user-friendly. Realistically, you can’t migrate entire communities if they’re bigger than a tight-knit IRL friend group, and even that is hard. That seems to be the only reason X still exists.
all of this is true with literally any company.
Almost, yeah. Certainly the big corps.
This is why I strongly favor services that use end-to-end encryption or do not store history in the first place.
There are not many times when I’ve needed to search back through history on a Discord server, and every time I have I thought to myself “this would be much better on any platform besides Discord”. Discord would, IMHO, be a better product if they did not retain history forever.
Ditto for Slack. Slack has the additional gall to limit access to that data unless you pay for a premium plan, despite the fact that they keep the data forever regardless (as evidenced by their occasional free trials which magically bring all history back, and some search tricks you can use to access old posts regardless).
Both Slack and Discord have lulled their user base into a false sense of privacy. Nothing you post there should be considered private.
They also recently implemented E2EE for calls.
But still doesn’t accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.
Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting
It isn’t just a server thing. Discord can request a phone number from you if they think something unusual is happening. Trying to create an account while using tor will make them ask for a phone number, and they reject those numbers offered by shared number services.
Fair enough, but then you are kinda asking for it if youre doing fishy shit. They need, and i do mean need, to somehow verify the actions being done are from a normal user and not a botnet or other fishy activity…
Sent by me:
Dear Discord Privacy Team!
I’m writing to you to inform you that your platform (mobile, desktop, browser) can enforce the user to verify their account with a phone number, after the user has changed their E-Mail adress. This is a serios privacy problem! I’d like you to verify that you don’t intend on providing other (more privacy friendly) means of account verification apart from providing the phone number. I suddenly cannot use my Discord account due to this and I object to providing a phone number.
Kind regards, ~sntx
Their answer:
Discord Privacy Team (Discord Support)
Hi there,
Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, we aren’t able to assist you here. This channel is reserved for privacy questions and requests.
It looks like this is a question for our Customer Support team. We recommend that you resubmit your request and choose the appropriate reporting option. You can do so here: […].
In the meantime you can check out our Help Center for more info on everything Discord.
We appreciate your understanding.
Sincerely, Discord Privacy Team
But its a server setting to need phone verification. Im on a ton of servers and never provided them my phone number. One server changed access rights manually for my username because i refused to give discord my phone number when they enabled the verification requirement haha.
Also, their response is terrible haha
now fix push to talk which is arguable far more important
How would they implement this? I’m curious to know.
https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/docs/doc-org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.html
KDE has support for it, Gnome is in progress: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/issues/47
Is there an actual implementation of this for Electron yet? Also, do you know any apps that use these yet? I haven’t found any.
Apparently Chromium has merged support for it, so it should get to Electron soon-ish: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5871484
Woooo yeah baby I love Discord
how dare you express a liking for a proprietary platform on lemmy, smh
/s
Forbidden opinion detected. Deploying downvote swarm
Oh awesome, I’ve been using the webcord version as the others were all shit for screen sharing. Having said that even webcord also has weird sound issue sim hoping are fixed with this.
Does that works for Wayland or X? or both?
Quite nice feature indeed.both, i mentioned that in the body text
You didn’t mention it works for both, just Wayland. Good to know it works on X, as well.
I mentioned the audio and wayland was fixed, x already worked
You didn’t really mention it works for both, just wayland, but it is in the article.
Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.
I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.
I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.
There’s plenty of free alternatives that works much better than discord
Not if I want calling, video chat, screen sharing and role based chat rooms all in the same place. I’ve explored this, but it just isn’t feature complete enough at the moment. I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user and Matrix just doesn’t manage it.
Calls and video chats works just fine in matrix and client like element allow you to integrate other services if you don’t like the default ones.
I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user
You sound a lot like someone who use windows. We are on a linux sub.
I am a Linux user. Bizarre assumption to make given my excitement over a Wayland specific Discord feature. But I don’t have any actual qualms with how Discord implements its own services. Matrix just doesn’t fit the bill for me. If you enjoy it, and it suits your needs then all the power to you. It just isn’t what works for me.
Matrix does not have the features of Discord. It’s far closer to a Telegram alternative. It doesn’t even have voice channels, a very basic requirement for a Discord alternative.
Matrix doesn’t?
