Supporters of Palestine have called to boycott the payment platform Stripe after its CEO and co-founder Patrick Collison - an Irish-American billionaire who has advocated for Palestinians in the past - posted on social media on Wednesday about his run on the beach in Tel Aviv and how it was “great” to be back.
Many responded to his post on X by pointing out that he was only thirty minutes away from the Gaza Strip. Conservative estimates say nearly 44,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s war on Gaza and two million have been under constant Israeli aggression as they fight what UN experts have called “'deliberate starvation”.
Some drew comparisons to the Academy Award-winning film, Zone of Interest, which depicts the everyday lives of Germans who lived next to the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War Two.
Reminiscent of “Travellers of the Third Reich” by Julia Boyd
ok. what should we use instead? paypal?
Trocador.app, Coingate, etc… They have a feature called AnonPay. Ik it’s for crypto, but still.
these only handle crypto. they’re not a replacement for stripe, and saying that it is is a very large stretch. stripe is used for handling fiat payments, and there’s a reason even Liberapay only supports that and Paypal: because all others are worse or questionable.
such services (recurring payment services) can’t really make use of crypto right now anyway, can they? they would either need to store your keys, or create a specialized wallet program and stop being a service, but the latter would also remove any possible transparency that the donation receiver may want to provide
Alright, then they’ll just have to stop consuming a lot of things they buy online. Also they can’t buy from places that use Stripe terminals. I’d like to see an entire group of people get up from their lounges and buy grocery in person because their local home grown market with home delivery uses stripe checkout.
Boycots are not only for consumers. They can also be implemented by vendors. Stripe is a large company, but it has competitors.
Yeah, and as a company owner I now I have to invest good amounts of money to switch providers? Spend development resources, administrative resources and whatnot to make a switch because the guy made a tweet you don’t like? And what do I do if the next providers’s CEO does something you don’t like?
Come on, this nonsense has to stop
Him visiting a beach in Israel isn’t the same as him saying “kill all the Palestinians”. This extreme knee jerk reaction is what has caused so much shit already, can we please PLEASE just stop it?
Reply with a tweet that maybe he is a bit insensitive, and please let it be done with that. This screeching isn’t solving anything, it isn’t helping Palestinians, it’s just making life miserable for more people.
Just calm down
Isn’t it enough for you simply to not participate? What’s your actual problem with other people doing it?
I have no problem with people doing things
I have a problem with people stumbling over themselves to ruin other people’s lives for wrong think, or small mistakes. There is no room for learning, growing and improving, no, er have to cancel, terminate, destroy.
The guy went to a beach and now somehow is complicit in a genocide? What the actual fuck, talking about an over reaction
And let there be no mistake, shit like this destroys lives. Has been doing ever since cancel culture became a thing. Just remembering this Nobel laureate that lost his job and got buried for making a joke that was taken the wrong way as being racist. Oh wait, he didn’t actually make that joke, some black woman made it all up just to be in the spotlight. His career was destroyed, the woman got her attention and was never punished, and nobody ever apologized to him for the pitchfork bullshit. This is how it always goes and it pisses me off.
This virtue signalling has nothing to do with stopping genocides, it’s all about “look at me being against genocide! Do you see me being against genocide? See me!”
Meanwhile there are real victims of this behavior
Stop it already
I can’t wait to see your comments in 2040 maybe you’ll have caught up to the times since you’re just shy of pulling out the entire 2010 cliche book.
I’m surprised you didn’t manage to squeeze in “SJWs” among your paragraphs and paragraphs of saying the same trite stuff.
Did you read anything at all?
Caught up with what times? The times where we publicly nail people to a cross just because he committed the horror of wrong think? This guy disagrees with the group, kill him!
Maybe we should go to public executions while we’re at it? You find that ridiculous, people thought the idea of a trump presidency was weird too
I’m literally saying that we don’t try to crucify people over tiny issues and you respond with “get with the time, man!” Well I don’t like this time.
Your behavior, again, is what made assholes liek trump possible in the first place. You and people like you put center people to the right and far right because you just don’t even know how to talk or reason anymore. You people destroy lives and then claim to be the good ones, then wonder why so many people voted for trump
Grow up
It’s almost like as if we’re all expected to participate and if we don’t. Then we’re just as bad as them apparently. Maybe you may not think the same, but I’ve seen plenty of examples IRL and on the web where not following the trending boycott gets you outcast. And it’s also sometimes like the only thing you might hear from the mindless echo chamber.
You’re totally right and that’s why you’re down voted into oblivion
Depends on the server and community 🤷 Technology community on lemmy.world is upvoting another person who said the same thing as I.
What’s your actual problem with other people doing it?
Those people make the previous user feel bad for doing nothing against a genocide.
But instead of learning from this and be better, they chose to label it as pointless
Make you feel bad?
You want a person’s life ruined, you want a company gone, hundreds of jobs gone, you want me ruined, all because a guy went to visit the wrong beach and tweeted about it, and me? I’m disagreeing with you, that’s wrong think!
I know there is a genocide going on, everyone does. Of course I’m against it, most sane people are. This tweet is insensitive, sure, but that is a discussion to be had. Unfortunately, current generations don’t have conversations anymore, we go knee jerk straight into trying to ruin people’s lives. This is not the first nor the last. This attempt surely will fail, but I know loads of people whose lives were ruined because of some tiny perceived slight.
Stop this madness
You’re not the good guy here, you’re the bad guy. You’re the reason so many people are done with this nonsense and walk over to right wing politics because there they can usut have a nice day without worrying about every single step they take that might destroy their lives. I’m serious, Ive heard too many trump voters complain about exactly this. You make people vote trump, please for the love of God, stop it.
The guy did something insensitive. Tell him it was rather insensitive, and continue your life. He’s not the reason for the genocide, he’s not supporting it, he’s just a guy who went to the wrong beach FFS.
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“Just calm down” is better articulated as, “stop saying things that make me feel uncomfortable feelings.”
The rhetoric of manipulation and abusers.
You’re literally putting words in my mouth here.
No, I’m telling these people to actually calm down as they are making a huge fuss over something very small, demanding that other make sacrifices to satisfy their own want.
None of this will bring Palestine back. The US voted trump, so Palestine will be pretty much gone anyway, but I hear few screeching about that part.
This guy visiting beach and because of that I’m supposed to make sacrifices? Get a life
I think my point stands.
That I’m an abuser because I don’t agree with you?
Great point
I wish I knew what your company was so I could boycott it too then
What a sad little person you are that you have to virtue signal everything just to feel loved.
I am trying to have a conversation about how we maybe should stop trying to destroy people because of small mistakes and you want to boycott me.
Thanks for being a perfect example of how small and pathetic you people are
Scratch a liberal lmao
If doing PR work for a fucking genocidal state is just cAnCeL cUltUrE gOnE mAd then you have no fucking red line.
If you’re only against a genocide as long as it doesn’t cost you money or effort, then you’re not against genocide. You’re the one virtue signaling up and down this comment section. This “free speech crusader” shit is old hat and nobody buys it.
Visiting a beach is PR work for genocide?
Do you hear the words that come out of your mouth, or in this case, fingers?
Seriously, read what you just wrote. The guy visited a fucking beach, that’s it!
Serious question: if you could, would you kill this guy? Would you end his life over this? I’m seriously trying to understand how far you’re willing to take this insanity
Again, you are the reason we have to deal with trump now. You and extremists like you caused all this shit. I’d rather deal with a dumb Maga asshole than with the likes of you as magas at least know what they’re pushing. You don’t even see that part.
The reason y’all have to to deal with trump is because oblivious people like you are okay with fascism as long as it’s a democrat doing it, and now it’s become a part of the tapestry. Pardon me if I don’t give a shit if Americans get what y’all been exporting for over a century.
Trump didn’t even need to pass new laws to enact a “fascist dictatorship” according to democrats, which begs the question: why the fuck were those laws there in the first place? America been fascist for a while, it just goes on power saver mode every so often.
Thank you for stating it
Don’t agree with me, that is wrong think
“You may protest and boycott but only in ways that don’t impact me”
No
You can protest all you want. I’m telling you to get a life and stop trying to ruin people’s lives over small perceived slights. This is not something that warrants protests, a guy went to the beach. Let it slide, this is not a hill to die on, this is not the fight you need.
There are actual issues that require protests, can we focus on that?
Yes stating you like visiting an Apartheid state while it is in the middle of a genocide is the same as saying ‘kill all the Palestinians’
How else would you interpret someone saying “good to be back in Nazi Germany” at the height of the Holocaust.
You are not expected to participate in every boycott. If you cannot avoid using something you can keep using it. But if you do not care much about a certain brand and it is on the boycott list, consider using alternatives
No, it is not. You do know that life still goes on right? Yes, he shouldn’t tweet about it, songs screech at him for being insensitive, stop with this cancel culture stuff already.
People can’t make a single small mistake in life anymore without being stomped into the ground by people like you. You want the company stripe gone, you want this dudes life ruined, you want other companies to sacrifice time and resources and get pissed when they aren’t willing to do that because THE DUDE VISITED A BEACH.
What is it with current generation and the sheer inability to just let things go? Yes, there is a genocide happening in Palestine, and Palestine has my complete and 100% support and Netanyahu will burn in hell for sure.
But can we just please stop cancelling everything that doesn’t do 100% correct? Thank God Lemmy is anonymous or I know for sure that I’d get a cancel culture mob after me as well for the sin of wrong think, I’m disagreeing with you after all, oh the horror.
People like you are the reason why so many people are flocking to right wing ideologies. You are part of the problem. With you they can’t make a single mistake, they can’t learn and improve, they are perfect or we will destroy them. At the right wing side they’re welcomed with open arms and can just live normally. People like you are the reason we’re stuck with trump.
Just. Calm. Down.
Just casually visiting the beach in Nazi Germany.
Yeah I’m not sure if you’re just so dumb or actually sick enough to believe that Israel is at the same level. Maybe read just a little more history? Israel is fucked up, but not even close.
They’re currently in the process of exterminating 2.2 million people by turning Gaza into a concentration death camp.
The only difference from the Nazis is the Nazis had a larger starting population to exterminate. Other than the gross total, the methods are similar and the goals are similar. People in Gaza are being starved and butchered on a scale eminently comparable to the Holocaust and I don’t know how you can deny this.
“This only hurts your cause” - person who doesn’t care about cause.
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This behavior literally hurts your cause. If you’d listen for a second to the Maga guys, yes, you’d hear more than enough of them tell you they went full Maga because they were fed up with the political correctness and immediate judgement and execution of the likes of you.
In case you haven’t noticed: Maga is in charge now of the US. If you’re a US citizen then thank you for screwing all of us over with your stubborn “BUT IM RIGHT” which now will fuck over the entire world.
Just stop being a dick, let people make mistakes, let people have different opinions. This guy is t Hitler, he isn’t saying death to Palestine, HE WENT TO A BEACH FFS.
Dude just accidentally visited a beach. A mistake anyone could make. Get over it. I myself have accidentally just walked down a beach which may have been in a country actively committing genocide and I may have had to make the conscious decision to fly to said country and ignore everything about it, and my money may have been helping to fund said genocide and whitewash the actions but like it’s just a minor mistake. Can easily happen. It’s just an accident bro.
You want the company stripe gone, you want this dudes life ruined, you want other companies to sacrifice time and resources and get pissed when they aren’t willing to do that because THE DUDE VISITED A BEACH.
The customer is always right. In the original meaning of the phrase: if enough people are sufficiently mad at your business to stop spending their money for your services, you as the business owner are in no position to argue with them or call their concerns frivolous.
No business owner is being forced to acquiesce to the boycotters’ demands. People are just choosing not to give them money if they don’t like what they’re seeing. If a boycott like this ends up tanking Stripe or any business that uses it, that’s literally the free market at work and the result of consumers exercising their right to choose who to do business with. Tough luck, should have adapted to the market.
You’re missing the point.
The dude went to a beach and a large group of people want to crucify not only him but also all the employees in his company. All must be punished because wrong think!
Can we PLEASE just all calm down and not make storms in coffee cups? Yeah, a conversation can be had about the insensitivity of his post, but why do we all need to pearl clutch and pitch fork whenever anyone makes the slightest misstep?
People aren’t even allowed to learn from mistakes, kill kill kill immediately!I’ve seen too many people’s career ended over insignificant bullshit, it has to stop.
And the collateral damage? Look at this sub, I’m trying to have a conversation about people calming down and see the responses I’m getting. You agree with us or we will cancel you too, dissenting is not allowed, wrong think is evil!
This attitude is what pushes the normal johnny from the corner to the right side of politics where he can simply say something dumb without immediately being crucified. This attitude that you’re displaying is what pushes more and more people to the right, this attitude is what got trump elected. Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop these crusades, stop pushing shit heads like trump into power.
A tobacco shop near us just moved from stripe to another vendor.
Guessing it was tobacco law related or something internal to their business, but I’ll let them know about this too.
(they’re Palestinian)
So, Gazan
You’re right, boycotting is difficult.
If someone gives a shit about this, they’ll find a way to avoid Stripe. This might surprise you because you’ve presumably have never given enough of a shit about a cause to actually modify your behavior for it, but deciding to participate in a boycott does in fact mean having to sacrifice your own convenience and limiting the options available to you.
Well I’ve hardly ever seen people genuinely follow through on what they say. The people I met are mostly all bark but no bite.
As for myself? I’m an anarchist. I really don’t give a shit for either side of the argument. I’ll gladly watch the world burn :)
I don’t even know wtf Stripe is, but by all means boycott the company because you don’t like what the CEO did. Fuck the employees who might get laid off as a result, the important thing is to feel like avenging angels and lash out at a CEO. Brilliant!
Imagine a tech company laying off workers for literally any reason, must be the fault of anti-war people right.
The majority of people who use stripe probably dont even know it, good luck boycotting that.
Lol yeah. Stripe is B2B and working with billing code is the worst trifecta of difficult, boring and very important. No company is swapping out for the Palestinians.
