“I’m worried about the fact that violence in the country is just escalating so much,” she says. “That this is a symptom of everyone thinking violence will solve their problems, and that I find tremendously frightening.”
I don’t know if violence can solve our problems or not, but I can guarantee that not changing anything, and maintaining the status quo, absolutely will NOT solve our problems, in healthcare or otherwise.
Biden in 2020, Harris in 2024: “Nothing will fundamentally change if you vote for us!”
Obama (“Change you can believe in”): Come on, you know why you are having such trouble at the ballot box
Violence is on their side lol
And even if it doesn’t solve the problem it at least makes people feel a bit better about it.
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The violent revolutionaries added an “or else” to Ghandi’s message.
I thought in Gandhi’s case what he preached was to just not cooperate with the British occupation and let it collapse under its own weight, which is kind of its own or else. Where can I learn more about the violent revolutionaries?
Dunno about the Ghandi situation, but a book that talks about how unions were forced into violence to get their pay from thieving industrial barons, among other examples of violence being the only way people claw back what they’re owed from the ruling class is A People’s History of the United States by Howard Zinn.
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It will.
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
The status quo is violent.
Murdering people with a pen is still murdering people.
How is this an escalation? It’s just one murder.
I like that even the doctors and professionals they found to interview for the story went out of their way to point out that yes, of course violence isn’t a good thing and this probably isn’t the way, but he’s been hurting people left and right, and they see it every day, and they’re glad he’s dead, and so is everyone they know.
Karma is a bitch
It is good to see the viewpoint of people working in health care. That they were afraid of being attacked over denied claims they have no control over, and that they see someone shot who was actually one of the guilty.
I made a large collection of screenshots from Facebook of people who had their claims denied by United Healthcare today if you want to really see violence.
Horrific!
People who claim to hate violence need to learn about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_violence immediately
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TIL about “Adultisim”
As they should.
If they catch him jury selection will be a tough gig for the State.
Dont think they will catch hiim, and if they do won’t be alive. Bet they have kill on site as their orders.
Maybe. Seems he has a few slip ups and they seem to have several leads. I think he’ll end up caught or end up dead. If caught, everyone in that city will need to remember jury nullification.
They could also just find him innocent. For example, if he is charged with premeditated murder, the jury could say they did not think the murder was premeditated and that he is innocent.
They could say that they don’t think the defendant is the person who did the crime and that he is innocent.
You just described jury nullification
I thought jury nullification was a third verdict that is not guilt or innocent.
Jury nullification refers to a jury’s knowing and deliberate rejection of the evidence or refusal to apply the law either because the jury wants to send a message about some social issue that is larger than the case itself, or because the result dictated by law is contrary to the jury’s sense of justice, morality, or fairness.
It’s a bit more complex and broad than that.
Jury nullification is exercised by juries finding defendants not guilty
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Its the jury disagreeing with the law
“We find the defendant innocent”
Or simply, “Oh this is the shooter? No he isn’t.”
Don’t let the selectors know you know about Jury Nullification.
Universal healthcare NOW
https://www.newsweek.com/87-democrats-support-medicare-all-though-joe-biden-doesnt-1522833
87% of democrats support single payer but Biden doesnt. Trump doesnt either.
Single payer or a public option would be steps in the right direction.
I’m not going to say how I feel about this, but I will say that United Health Care told me 2 separate times that they would reimburse me $2,000 for the vaccines before I traveled.
Then I got the vaccines and when I submitted the paperwork, they refused to reimburse me and the manger was like, “Oh, we made a mistake, we will not reimburse you for that.”
Also - $2000 for vaccines?!
Anti rabies was $1080 for 3 shots. There were a few others I needed since I was moving to a different country.
wtf. I’m glad I won the lottery with where I was born. But saying that, it has to be a constant struggle to prevent that dystopia anywhere. Not luck. Were the shots required for visas? Did you look into the price difference getting them at your destination? - more out of curiosity . $200nzd is the highest price I could find for full dose here in NZ - and thats private (not publicly funded). Approx 100usd. Some of your others would be free. I’m guessing you’re not coming to NZ though so not questioning your choice to vax for whats required at destination - sensible. Just the absolute scam world you poor Americans have to live with. We are all headed there if we aren’t careful, and keep our wits.
Should’ve said no take backs. Thats on you /s
I feel like the “/s” thing always ruins the joke. For me, it’s the ambiguity that makes it funny, if sarcasm is stated explicitly it just doesn’t work that well.
I see it a lot nowadays, so my comment is not targeted at you, do not take it personally. Just a thought I had.
Sarcasm without tags on 4chan gave safe harbor to neonazis. I think a slightly tarnished joke is worth it to keep out nazis.
That, plus sarcasm really only works if people know who you are, and thus can know you’re being sarcastic. It doesn’t reliably come across when you’re talking to strangers.
I partly agree with your second point, but the thing is that you have to figure out the person does not mean what they say - that’s the point. If you state the sarcasm explicitly it is not really sarcasm. And while in some contexts it can be hard to know for sure whether something is sarcasm, I do not think this is a problem, and it is more often than not, like in this case, rather obvious.
Also, for the “antifascist” thing to work you would have to take everything everyone says at face value to make sure there are no ambiguities. So if made a joke withut the “/s” or “/j” or whatever you would assume I am being serious? Honestly, making our communication more primitive just so that fascists are marginally easier to spot(I mean you can probably figure it out without the “/s” anyway) is, in my opinion, absurd.
No. If you omit it, you reinforce the belief of fascists
Is this an actual reason for why people do that, an ad hoc explanation, or a view that just a few people hold?
People are lazy. But, yes, many people who do write “/s” do it so that fascists know we’re making fun of them, not reinforcing their beliefs.
It’s the same reason Mein Kampf requires footnotes in Germany, by law
Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don’t have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well.
Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park.
All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them.
This genuinely made me laugh.
Sick
But they’ll have this guy soon. Then the story will be about him.
If you seriously think he’s going to be given a fair trial and not executed by the police during arrest, you’re either way too optimistic or way too naive.
He sent a message that brought the public together against an institution that abuses them instead of driving them to fight amongst themselves. The rich and powerful are not going to let him send another one.
Thing is, most every cop has also had dealings with shit insurance providers. Being a cop didn’t get their dying father better cancer treatment.
Cops are bootlickers. They will fall all over themselves to unload a magazine on this guy if it gets them accolades from those in power. Even if their mother or father was denied life saving cancer meds by the very guy who this hero shot.
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We all were born into the social contract. The nation states of the world assumed a monopoly on violence to provide justice instead of us taking revenge. But when there is no justice, there are only two options: to resign yourself to injustice or to take revenge.
They’re a bunch of fucking monkeys, jumping around like savages, scratching their armpits, and throwing shit at the walls. I don’t want to live in a world where people so entirely lack a moral compass that they can cheer on murder as an outlet for their anger.
Anger is often an indication of one’s moral compass. If you’re not angry at the tens of thousands who die because of a lack of health insurance, or because of illegitimate denials of their health care, something is very wrong with you. This man was a monster cut from the same cloth as any murderer or terrorist.
The only deference between a ceo and a serial killer is typically the class they were born in.
So you’d rather live in a world where indirect murder and death are normalized. You are fine with people dying as long as it’s “clean” and orderly. As long as it’s always discussed calmly in the abstract, and in terms of statistics, percentages, economics, and policy.
You want to act like you are morally superior to everybody because you’re “rational” and would never stoop to dank meme about a super rich CEO of a multi-billion dollar insurance corpo.
Well let me put it in terms you might appreciate: This CEO’s death shouldn’t be mourned because the world is a slightly better place now that he is dead. He made millions of dollars and lived a more lavish lifestyle than 99.99% of people will ever experience. And he did that with money he made by causing the deaths and suffering of thousands of innocent, vulnerable people via the policies and practices of the company he was in charge of for years.
See? Cold, abstract, and calm. Is that “rational” enough for you?
