I currently have two TVs, one I use an appleTV with and the other with a googleTV HD (device formerly known as Chromecast), but they both have issues.
The jellyfin app on appleTV is messed up, it fucks up audio and subs all the time, and in general has a hard time with media that has multiple audio tracks, not using the audio I select with the remote.
The googleTV just stutters with almost everything, direct stream or transcoded doesn’t matter. All of my library is just 1080p, I have proper wifi to it, all mobile devices stream just fine.
So neither of these provide me with a solution that really works.
What solutions can you recommend, that allows for seamless navigation of jellyfin with my remote? I don’t want anything resembling a mouse/keyboard combo for navigation whatsoever.
Plex, unfortunately, is the best answer for this right now. Easiest to set up and maintain, the client apps are fine, you may have to fiddle with the Apple TV to be pain free though.
I have a few raspberry pi’s with kodi running and linked to my media served over nfs, which works well, just not as polished and fast as plex.
Personally, as soon as the Apple TV client gets fixed for Jellyfin, will probably drop plex altogether. The iOS app is stellar so not sure why it hasn’t been ported yet. I also have an easier time with my media playback with Jellyfin over plex, and you don’t need to pay for good hardware transcoding, it’s just the ui is so god awful!
I’m not touching Plex ever, so I’ll have to find another solution, or demote the appleTV to the bedroom because my wife and I watch most things in English anyway so we don’t change the audio track like the kids do.
I have to use an AppleTV for various reasons, so I settled on a simple SMB share on an old mac mini server and the (subscription) Infuse app, it’s been rock solid as a player on all devices and very low effort.
I am using the “Chromecast with Google TV” connected to wifi via 5ghz and use mkv files from collection via Jellyfin. I used to transcode from the i7-8700u but larger files took too long to start playing (with quicksync and proper drivers and passthrough) and tried turning off transcode and surprising works fine without issues. Ive tried 15gb files without issues.
So i would suggest checking your set up to make sure not something configured wrong and if you use mkv files try turning off all transcode to see if it works better.
Same experience here.
Unless you have a commitment to only using open source software, I’d recommend Plex over Jellyfin. Mostly because I’ve found the client software for Jellyfin to be lacking, especially on AppleTV.
For the issues with the GoogleTV, you mention that it’s on WiFi, would it be possible to use a wired connection or get another set top box for it? Some TVs have the WiFi antenna behind the screen causing interference, so even though other devices get a strong signal the TV doesn’t.
Also, how’s the hardware on your server? Is the CPU powerful enough or do you have a GPU for transcoding? Also, is the server on WiFi or wired?
It’s worth noting that a lot of settop boxes have limited codec support, which might be forcing transcoding even if everything should otherwise support direct play.
Just FYI, Infuse is a great jellyfin client for AppleTV
The googleTV dongle doesn’t have any ports apart from usb-C for power and the attached HDMI cable. It’s what was once called a chromecast.
Ah, it’s one of those. I was thinking it was the TV’s OS.
I don’t have a lot of experience with those smaller dongles, but as I understand it they’re fairly low power devices that are more meant for streaming relatively low bitrate media from the internet or from a phone. It may not have the horsepower for playing back high bitrate media from Jellyfin or Plex.
Others may have a solution that’ll work for that device, but my gut response is to say you should consider replacing it with something more powerful.
You can use a USB hub dongle which passes through power via USB C with a Google TV (4K) device. That’s what I do for mine to connect it to the rest of my GbE VLAN via wired ethernet connection and avoid Wi-Fi packet drops when streaming or casting 4K HDR content. A dongle is also handy to connect any USB web cam so I can use the TV for large family video calls with the grandparents in the living room, via Android apps like Google Meet or Zoom.
Here is the one I use that also has a combo headphone jack with GbE Ethernet and passthrough charging, so also nice for Moonlight gaming on modern android 120Hz HDR tablets where I don’t want to use low bitrate HFP Bluetooth for discord calls while also listening to game audio and music. Note, when used with the Google TV, I don’t use the USB Hub’s HDMI, opting for the Google TV’s international cord to maintain Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) functionality.
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How are these devices connected to the network and how is your media server connected?
Server is wired, devices use WiFi
Which type of Wi-Fi and what type of wired connection?
I suspect that there’s not enough bandwidth available.
Dual and 2.4 and 5ghz wifi, gigabit wired. I’m speed testing the googleTV to >500mbps, so wifi should be more than adequate.
That seems adequate.
You say that phones and mobile devices stream fine. Os that from your media server, or the internet?
How does internet streaming work on the Google TV and Apple TV?
Essentially you need to keep eliminating causes until there’s one left.
All other devices stream (locally) just fine without stuttering, I don’t have access to the server outside my home network (intentionally).
The appleTV streams just fine, I just can’t change audio track on that, which mostly impact the kids because they still have limited English skills.
Have you tried non official jellyfin clients? I had issues with the official app on AppleTV as well, so I switched to Infuse. The free app supports most things and I think the paid gives access to additional codecs if I recall correctly. The pro upgrade isn’t too expensive and the app is sleek across Apple devices. Only issue I’ve really had is sometimes if a video is not played to the end (as in, stopped during credits) it still shows up in the continue watching, but that might be a problem on my end.
I think MXPlayer is similar on Android which might be worth checking out.
Nah, I think that’s an issue with the jellyfin server. It happens to me too, using Swiftfin on AppleTV.
I think that’s an issue with the jellyfin server
It’s just weird that audio tracks works correctly on all other devices, this is only happening on the appleTV.
…I meant the keep watching thing. I get that a lot if I skip to the next episode right at the outro of a show.
Aah, this is an issue consistently on both movies and shows, also when starting. If i select anything other than the default track, it doesn’t actually select what I pick but something else (like it picks Finnish even though I select Danish, and it shows I select Danish). Again, this only happens on the AppleTV, all.other devices switch correctly.
I know people knock it, but Plex has worked without issue for me for years. They have apps dedicated to every type of media for easy browsing. It’s so simple my mom can use it without help.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Second Plex. It just works and doesn’t need any big configuration to get it running
Third Plex. It’s a bit baffling as to why it’s got such a bad rep recently because it performs its core function of serving media incredibly well, is super easy (barely an inconvenience) to setup, and there’s apps for every conceivable platform.
Yes there’s a few features locked behind a subscription (though they still sell lifetime passes, often at good discounts) and they’re trying to “legitimize” with their ad-backed streaming thing, but the core product of local media server is still very much there, and free, and isn’t going anywhere.
Exactly, and in contrast to Jellyfin it actually looks like someone with expertise in UI has worked on theirs. I personally would also prefer a monetization similar to Immich, but the lifetime pass on sale is definitely money well spent.
You may want check out Infuse for the AppleTV. I have found it fixed every audio drift and video jitter concern that I’ve ever had with Plex or Jellyfin.
You can point it either directly at an SMB share, or a library hosted on Jellyfin or Plex. The advantage of this is it caches the artwork in the library, not on the AppleTV, because the AppleTV will periodically flush its local cache, leading to long re-fetching times and waiting to watch things.
I have no recommendations for the Chromecast.
I’ve used a bunch of different solutions over the years, but currently I just run Gerbera and it streams my local library to my TVs because of the sheer ease. It’s not perfect, fast forward and rewind can be iffy to get working with some configurations, but otherwise it has been a smooth experience.
It has to be user friendly enough for a literal 5yo though
Does it need to use the remote? I have a Chromecast (the casting device, not the app running device) and I use the Jellyfin app on my phone and I cast to the Chromecast. Works fine for me.
Doesn’t need to be the remote, but it does need to work independently of other devices than what’s connected to the TV. Having to cast from a device doesn’t really work with how we use TV watching in our house, especially for the kids since they don’t have their own phones or tablets to do it from.
My solution to that issue is to share my media over NFS with a raspberry pi connected to the TV, the pi runs OSMC (https://osmc.tv/) and has the media direct. you can control OSMC on the pi with your TV remote
I enabled the DLNA server in Jellyfin. And that works okay with my LG webOS TV. But it’s down to the quirks of the TV which also likes to enable subtitles and the default audio track.
I use the Kodi app on my smart tv to watch movies and shows shared from my server via SMB, never had any problems, aside from green tint on some HDR encodings. My TV’s wired tho.
an old laptop/desktop (like 6th-gen Intel or newer) that boots directly into jellyfin-media-player in TV fullscreen mode. it supports any remote that can emmit up-down-left-right, enter, esc (like, via InputRemapper). disable transcoding on the server and play anything you want via direct stream.
Was looking for something a bit more elegant…An old laptop is going to look like shit
stove them out of sight? well, you can go for a mini-PC if price isn’t an issue. but these things can be had for ultra-cheap, especially if you have one laying around or get one with a busted screen or sumsuch. an android box is a hit or miss, maybe it’s good, maybe it’s crap, maybe it’s loaded with malware… the middle ground would be a Raspberry Pi, there are unofficial LineageOS Android TV builds.
stove them out of sight?
We have a fairly minimalistic setup around the TV, there’s nowhere to hide it which is why we originally went with an appleTV because it looks pretty decent.
Raspberry Pi with a cute case then, and/or glued/velcroed to the back of the TV. they also support HDMI-CEC so your TV’s remote can work.
Do you know of a solution won’t boots directly to jellyfin and can ONLY be used with that?
like a commercially available one? negative, you have to tinker and make it such.
if you have linux on the player (like with said PC or Raspberry) you have full control and can set it up to boot directly into jellyfin-media-player in fullscreen TV mode (that’s the one where remotes work).
Yeah I really prefer as close to plug-and-play as possible, I don’t want to spend hours tinkering to get something that basic working.
I’ll take a look and see if it’s low effort enough.
You can also just install the libreelec os (Kodi), and install the Jellyfin Kodi addon. Haven’t tried that addon. I used to use Kodi when I had only one TV, and liked it. Now that I have 2 Android TVs, just installing Jellyfin on the TVs works fine. I might go back to rPIs and disconnect my TVs from the internet though.
I use Emby. It’s similar to Jellyfin, but the Apps get a little more attention to detail. Worth a try, and if you don’t need gpu transcoding you don’t need to pay.
But, if I was still using an Apple TV, I would use Infuse.
Got an amazon firestick pro 4k. Have just a 1080p TV, but the pro4k hardware is just better than the other models.
Fully satisfied. Works beautiful with Jelly fin TV app.
Has amazon advertising tough, so YMMV.
