Embodied, maker of the AI robot called Moxie, is shuttering. With their closing, parents have to explain to their kids that Moxie is dead.

AI company Embodied announced this week that they would be shutting down following financial difficulties and a sudden withdrawal of funding. Embodied’s main product was Moxie, an AI-powered social robot specifically made with autistic children in mind. The robot itself cost $799.00 and now, following the closure of Embodied, it will cease to function.

Moxie is a small blue robot with a big expressive face straight out of a Pixar movie. The robot used large language models in the cloud to answer questions, talk, and function. With Embodied out of business, the robot will soon no longer be able to make those calls. This outcome was always likely – any cloud based device is subject to the health of the company and LLMs are not cheap to run. This has actually happened before with a company called Vector. But the shocking part is that this was not an old device, it was fairly recent, expensive, and still being sold.

  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    851·
    18 days ago

    This is why you never buy any device that uses the cloud unless there is an option to self host.

    • FaceDeer@fedia.io
      52·
      18 days ago

      Yeah, this isn’t really an AI-specific story. I’ve refused to buy all sorts of things that depend on “cloud services” that I know would simply cease to function if some remote server went away, without any option to tell it to talk to a server I run instead.

      There are plenty of open models for AI these days, it should be possible to build a robot buddy like this that could have its brain rehosted somewhere else in the event that the parent company shuts down.

  • ApatheticCactus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    16 days ago

    This is a fantastic opportunity to allow parents to explain financial insolvency to their autistic child grieving the loss of their robot companion.

  • umbraroze@lemmy.worldEnglish
    58·
    17 days ago

    There’s a movie plot hook buried there. About a kid on spectrum whose robot buddy gets killed by the uncaring business. They go “oh no, I’ll have to fix my robot buddy” and go on to become a tech genius. One day, they become a tech millionaire, and the story’s antagonist, the shady businesses partner, goes “look, we’re bankrupt, we have no choice, we have to shut down all of the robot buddies”. And the protagonist remembers the saddest moment of their childhood and are like “no, we can’t do that”.

  • TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1361·
    18 days ago

    We are going to be seeing so many of these investor-backed, AI-focused, trend-chasing startups dropping like flies in the next few years as the interest (and VC money) dries up. The landfills of the world are going to fill with even more disposable trash as so many cloud-dependant gadgets go offline.

    • ch00f@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      18 days ago

      That’s why I like to check if someone has already rooted a purpose-built gadget before buying.

      My RabbitAI will make a nice little MP3 player when the company folds.

    • FiveMacs@lemmy.caEnglish
      51·
      18 days ago

      This is why I buy NOTHING anymore…everything is integrated with bullshit that will stop working when they want to and the only courses of action I have are don’t buy anything, or buy things and throw them through they windows WHEN they do this.

      I choose to save money and buy literally nothing.

      • Let's Go 2 the Mall!@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        17 days ago

        same here. I cancelled all subscriptions too. The billionaires have enough money. Not giving them any more of mine. At this point, I only buy food and beer. I’m learning to sew so I can keep my clothes longer too. they will stop making garbage when people stop buying it.

        • wanderingmagus@lemm.eeEnglish
          9·
          17 days ago

          You could also learn how to brew your own beer, and try growing your own herbs and vegetables either on a balcony or patio or even indoors. Even more of a middle finger to the billionaires. Buy-nothing groups for furniture and other items, or a local garage sale, or at least a locally-run secondhand store. The less we consume, the less wealth is transferred.

          • Let's Go 2 the Mall!@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            17 days ago

            I tried brewing my own once. It tasted like sweet frothy dirt. lol. I could give it another go I suppose. I did join some local facebook free groups. So that’s a start. I would like to also distance myself from facebook but there’s literally nothing else that people use around here.

            • wanderingmagus@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              17 days ago

              You could try looking at Freecycle, Trashnothing, or Freegle, instead of the Facebook groups. I think there’s also Lemmy and Mastodon groups around brewing you can try looking at. Anything to fight the system!

  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.eeEnglish
    563·
    18 days ago

    An expensive gadget that requires the cloud to function that is designed to manipulate young children into believing that this gadget is their “friend”.

    How this is even legal is beyond me.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    50·
    18 days ago

    Have you used one of these? My in-laws bought one (WHYYY) for my kids, I said at the time it was just a waste of money that wouldnt last 3 years. Anyway, it was creepy, monotone, and could only remember 1 child’s name. Really not great for interacting with kids.

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        17 days ago

        Yea, that thing would’ve gone out in the next trash collection.

        “Oh, it broke”. Actually, no, it would’ve never come in my house. I’m pretty up front about not allowing such invasive bullshit.

    • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org
      2·
      16 days ago

      You’ve answered what I was wondering… “Given how ‘good’ these AI turds are, was this robot any good? Isn’t it probably the reason the company is going butt-up?” I seriously hope the ‘specifically made for autistic children’ wasn’t their way to stand out among all the other toy robots…

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
      2·
      17 days ago

      I might be interested in putting together at-cost replacement internals to make these things work again for kids that saw benefit from them. DM me if you’d like to help me figure out if this is possible.

      If so, please keep it off the internet if possible, I’ll explain why.

      • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        16 days ago

        My kids didnt like it so I dont have much interest in making it work again. If you’d like the unit you can DM me and we can figure that out. You’ll probably need a few in your endeavors.

  • thefartographer@lemm.eeEnglish
    19·
    18 days ago

    I assume they’re filing for bankruptcy. Is there any way we could purchase the servers and IP to keep this running with a much cheaper and less stupid backend than an LLM? Parents of autistic kids needing to tell them that their robot buddy will no longer be part of their daily routine isn’t doing anyone any favors.