…until it goes right back up in [insert timeframe]
Will we never learn?? Make it stick!! Take more action!! Please let this be the spark
Good, let it crash and burn and let it not be the only one
Free healthcare for all US citizens!
And if Americans really did have the ability to shop around for the health insurance they wouldn’t need in a sane country in this first place, this might be a good thing.
As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.
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I don’t even know what goes on anymore. I’ve had good health insurance in the USA for years (I’m a trucker) but have not had health insurance in Canada for 7 years (because I’m a trucker of no fixed address and health care is provincial, i pay income taxes to an entity that issues my driver’s license but denies i live there when it comes to my health insurance) My american health insurance doesn’t give two shits where i live. My drivers license is to a post office box near my employer of 7 years. I’m literally homeless but consistently pay taxes and reside in one county in one province with a steady employer but i just won’t lie so i don;t have “canadian” health insurance, which is never been my “birthright as a Canadian” like muttonhead socialists talk about, it’s always been provincially determined while the federal government pretends it wasn’t something that happened despite their resistance, when provincials had balls and thought of themselves as their region, not canadians.
Wait, so what happens if an American gets sick in Canada?
The smart ones make sure their insurance covers international travel, same as I did.
Right, but let’s say you don’t. Let’s say you’re only in Canada for a day and you get hit by a truck. What happens in terms of their medical system and what you have to pay?
as a tourist, with no health insurance, full billing but it’ll be actual at cost, not the inflated number used down south for the hospital company and insurance companies to argue over. Broken leg, say, probably set you back 5000 Canadian depending. Similar to the states at final billing.
Interesting. Thanks.
What point are trying to make?
American health insurance is better than Canadian because you don’t have fixed residency?
no, try again. the point was more than clear.
What you meant might have been clear to you…
As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.
Rates for 2025 are set already.
You can’t switch next cycle like the rest of people prolly gonna do?
Which “rest of people” get a choice of insurance providers from their employer?
Or do you mean pay a hell of a lot more for a plan the employer isn’t offering?
fair point, well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.
you are deff on point that they will extract to punish for this. but staying with them is a bad business decision unless your employer is getting kick backs.
Big companies will switch if the rates justify it, it’s a yearly bidding war, and quite annoying when you have to change insurance cards and even a different provider because of things beyond your control. Healthcare should be nationalized and not tied to employment for so many reasons.
well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.
Has that ever worked for you? Have you only worked in small businesses or something?
If things were that simple, the CEO wouldn’t have been assassinated in the first place.
i know they deff switch providers if they care to ever “save” money
Yeah, okay. The CEO will be very happy to see some random low-level peon about which insurance company ConHugeCo uses.
I’m thinking you’re not actually in the U.S. at this point if you think that’s how anything works.
I am sorry UHC customers will have to suffer as result of other customers ditching UHC.
Health insurance costs the company money too, it’s why United was so popular, it’s cheaper for the company. If they raise their rates, the company has to foot part of that bill. Normally 50+% is covered by your employer. That’s why it is so much cheaper to get insurance through your company than going market. So if United raises rates by 25%, your employer is as pissed as you are. What your employer might not care about(if you are in a big company) is things like denial rates or employee experience.
Sounds like your workplace should unionize.
Not saying it would be easy nor quick but it would be a lot more effective than berating people on the internet who agree with you.
I did not berate the person you are defending, a person who has apparently been trolling people all over Lemmy and even got banned from c/news a month ago for it. And had their last post in this thread deleted for trolling.
They have quite the interesting modlog history as well.
How could Brian do this to the shareholders?
fucking lol. someone get the new ceo.
We need a George Soros who would pay off private security companies who you know these CEOs pay very poorly to look the other way when they reach a quiet dark not very populated destination.
At that point, just bribe one of the security team members to do it and smaller bribes for everyone else on the security team to not see it.
So far…
So… *checks math*, just 13 more? That’s achievable. Let’s do this.
Doesn’t matter what you think really though, right? These businesses operate on measurable KPIs and if overall thresholds weren’t being hit, something would happen.
If you were a manager with that attitude, you’d be a micro manager and we all know that that type of manager, in any sector, SUCKS.
Think of the shareholders you monsters! Only they matter! Not the patients. Duh; Businesses pay huge premiums to insure their employees, can’t have that money being used for the good of the people it’s meant to help.
Well why would a peasant keep any surplus value of their labor?
Luigi, I can forgive a lot, but shareholder value… How could you, man?
How am I supposed to tell my kids about his when they are back from the character building camp I sent them to where they were hunting lesser human beings for sport in an eastern European country I won’t name? This is really going to crush their big, delicate hearts…
Pff, peasant, sending your children off to some far ofd shithole. Shell out some real money and I’m pretty sure you can find some human hunting grounds within the U S of A. Turn it into family bonding time like a good father.
Hey!!! DON’T YOU DARE call it a far off shithole!!! That is the place were I get the underaged nannies that I get pregnant from! These are the undocumented mothers of some of the children I don’t care about as much as my “on the books” kids, but they have my DNA - so have some fucking respect!
Actually, I sense a little jealously as you’ve probably realized that I can/will be able to farm all of these tier 2 children’s organs eventually to extend the life of my pure A-tier family. Green does not look good on you, buddy!
Too bad they will make damn sure this doesn’t hurt the shareholders but the people themselves.
It worked! This is a valid tactic.
Boy the new and old media are having a thesaurus day with the word “killed”.
I guess unalived isn’t popular anymore.
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Why are healthcare denials sent to and shouldered by patients? If you go to an in network facility, that place is vetted by insurer. So why isn’t a ‘denial’ a matter between the provider and the insurer and transparent to the patient?
Why are there networks, health insurance companies, co-payments, payment disputes/ negotiations of prices, and people suffering from not receiving medical care?
Oh yeah, because this way it costs us significantly more and we can think we are doing better than others in life by acquiring a job where we have linked medical coverage too.
The fact that there are “classes” of healthcare is just repulsive.
You sound like a socialist! WAGTATSGHEHDHDHEHDHDHDHHX
Banana bread at work?
