• granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
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    9 days ago

    Two bullets back of the head?

    A Boeing suicide…

    You know we all love a good laugh about russians falling out from a window but when we will start asking questions why whistle blowers “dying” is a normal occurrence in the US.

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      I was talking to my cousin (journalist) a while ago and she told me how she was supposed to interview a whistleblower for Anaheim PD. I snarkily commented something like, “yeah but let me guess he shot himself twice in the back of the head” and she alarmingly said “…yeah, how did you know?”

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        I’m surprised that she would be surprised by that, it’s like the most obvious thing ever lol

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    It’s all about probabilities.

    Truth is proof, and the article contains no details to establish this absolutely. So, we are left with supposition.

    This wasn’t an isolated man with nothing to live for - while his career in AI was over, he’d left it to pursue a moral agenda. Suicide is not likely until AFTER he testifies and discharged this.

    The fact he supposedly had documents and a testimony that could heavily harm a company is enough to make it very likely his death was the cost of doing business - why pay a billion in a court case when you can pay a million for a professional hit?

    On the balance of probabilities, it looks more likely to be like foul play. As they say, Epstein didn’t kill himself.

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    Its crazy how fast you die once you blow that whistle. All out class war on one side.

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    Oh, I see how it is. They keep killing and killing, but we hit ONE CEO and shit hits the fan. Alright, then.

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    You gotta set up a dead man’s switch (not literal give the evidence to a lawyer or do a deposition or whatever). Do that before you blow the whistle and announce that at the same time.

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      In some countries some people prefer to suicide themselves alone in their rooms without warning. In other countries, they prefer to suicide themselves by shooting themselves multiple times in the back and/or throwing themselves off of multiple storey buildings. Who can say? It’s not like countries led by psychopaths who put profit margins above society, including people’s lives, would ever kill people to defend their bottom line.

      There’s two barriers to justice in today’s world: The first one is having enough money to hire lawyers. The second one is having enough money to hire bodyguards.

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    Conservative conspiracy theories: “HA! What idiots!”

    Lemmy conspiracy theories: “HA! Told ya!”

    Maybe ask some fucking questions?!

    after receiving a call asking officers to check on his well-being

    Who called and why? This seems extraordinarily important.

    “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

    OK. Let’s see what comes out.

    The MO here seems to be pressuring people in to suicide. It’s been done. So…? What do we know along those lines?

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      SWAT doesn’t need to know who called in order to go full Rambo on random citizens. Rich people pull the strings. They don’t believe in accountability.

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        They do not send in SWAT for wellness checks

        In a Nov. 18 letter filed in federal court, attorneys for The New York Times named Balaji as someone who had “unique and relevant documents” that would support their case against OpenAI. He was among at least 12 people — many of them past or present OpenAI employees — the newspaper had named in court filings as having material helpful to their case, ahead of depositions.

        Unless stuff starts happening to those people, or there is some detail I missed in the article, it is much more plausible that this was suicide than some corporate hit, let alone one carried out using police violence? Is that what you were implying?

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        That’s a vector of attack and it has been exploited by randos.

        I think if it wasn’t for that, we wouldn’t know that it can be that easy to call in swat someone, these people do no diligence, just go in hot.

        This is way to easy to socially engineer, government must know this and yet it still happens.

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    So? He was Poor! Let me know when a RICH PERSON dies and THEN I’ll care!

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    Idk everyone is doing the "he was killed but

    The medical examiner’s office determined the manner of death to be suicide and police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

    Isn’t it possible the guy was troubled and just actually killed himself?

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        He was a king pedo going to prison for the rest of his life and had tried kill himself before. I definitely would’ve tried to kill myself given the chance tbh

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          If you read up on that incident though, so many things had to go wrong for him to have an opportunity to do it while locked up that it’s really hard to not consider foul play no matter what the prison or the government says about it.

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            There’s a difference between him having been murdered and giving him the opportunity to kill himself. Second case would mean that he actually did hang himself

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      When you consider the billions that are at stake in cramming “AI” into computers, cars, phones, agit-prop generation and military hardware, I there’s a non-zero chance that his death wasn’t accidental. Maybe a second coroner’s opinion is in order.

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      Can’t see the forest for the trees.

      The problem isn’t that this guy might have killed himself. The problem is that the death rate of whistleblowers is very high. That makes every individual case much more suspect, and should be held to higher standards of scrutiny. And they aren’t. So we complain.

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        I’m just saying assuming this was a murder seems premature. Thinking this is sus makes more sense

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          There’s also the possibility of him receiving threats so horrible he was coerced into suicide. “No foul play” just seems so incredibly unlikely.

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      People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

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        People also kill themselves daily (well those who succeed do it just the once)

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      its most certainly possible. but its also possible it was not since billions of dollars are at stake.

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        Yes I just mean that I wouldn’t consider it a murder without any indication of it being one

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    Why not establish armed compounds where we the people keep whistleblowers safe?

    Some private rancho in Texas with armed guards and lots of cameras?

    Clearly gov is failing to protect them.