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so honestly, who would you use now? I’d never buy HP, Acer, Lenovo. total crap machines. what other brands of laptop are any good going into 2025/2026? The XPS was always my go-to but now what options are remaining?
I love my framework, though it’s not as small and battery efficient as my previous xps 13
Dell XPS and Lenovo X1 Carbon are the best laptops for running Linux. I currently have an AMD Framework and, while it’s nice that it’s repairable, Linux support is crap compared to the XPS and X1. I was actually looking into selling this junk Framework laptop and buying an X1 Carbon.
What don’t you like about your Framework? I haven’t noticed anything wrong with mine, but haven’t had it long.
As I work with HP and HPE at work:
Just don’t buy anything below ProBook and EliteBook. They are trash.In fact, don’t buy anything you see at an electronic retailer without looking and inspecting the product very intensely.
And buy the business-line. They are usually better than consumer product lines.I honestly still like Thinkpad. Using a T14s currently.
At this point I build my desktops and I’ll buy Framework laptops.
I’d like people to actually read the article before commenting. They are renaming their laptops. They’ll continue producing what would’ve been XPS.
But will name them Max Pro, killing the XPS brand. You know, like the title says
But many commenters think they will just stop producing these laptops. You know, like my comment explains.
“Dude, you’re getting a Dell Max Pro Premium” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it…
If it matters to you, Michael Dell is pro-genocide:
AMD now has “Max” chips and Dell now has “Pro” and “Max” laptops.
Everyone copying Apple.
Same as it ever was
AMD has the worst naming schemes in the industry, I miss the simple old i3, i5, i7… for each generation.
Well AMD just blatantly copied Nvidia’s naming scheme for their new GPUs so maybe they’ll copy Intel for their CPUs. I mean, they kind of already did, since the Ryzen 9 is basically i9, and the Ryzen 7 is basically i7 etc. It’s mostly AMDs mobile CPUs that have horrendous names, but Intel really isn’t much better in that department.
I can’t say Intel CPU naming is better though. The i3, i5, i7, i9 is misleading and the full names are even more confusing than AMD’s.
For a little bit there with 12th and 13th gen laptops it seemed like it could have made sense.
U was the low power “normal” chip
P was the higher power chip
H was the highest power chips
Then i3-9 for the stack.
But then 100 and 200 series ditched that and the P series kinda merged with the H series and you have no idea what you’re getting.
I wish there was a Company that inspired the Design/Build Quality of the Thinkpad for their Laptop rather then Apple.
“Dell shoots itself in the foot and will only realise in 3 years”
I always found the build quality for Lenovo Thinkpads to be better than any of the top tier Dell laptops. Most of the laptops I had in circulation were Dells and the always gave me problems. The Thinkpads just worked.
I never got the allure of Lenovo. the Chinese spyware left a bad taste in my mouth.
I had an X1 years ago bit I’ll take my 9360 over that any day.
The prestige behind the thinkpad brand specifically predates lenovo. They bought it from IBM in '05. AFAIK they’ve always been seen as reliable, well built laptops, albeit a bit pricier.
As far as spyware, with win11 being what it is your options are install Linux or live with it no matter which manufacturer you go with.
I’m pretty sure IBM sold the branding to them since they were already doing the manufacturing. They still do the warranty/maintenance work, though based on the last two call outs I’ve had with their “techs” I might opt for depot repairs or taking it to the local Micro Center for warranty work.
As far as spyware, with win11 being what it is your options are install Linux or live with it no matter which manufacturer you go with.
I wasn’t aware that there were other options outside of Linux.
Learn something new everyday 🤣 /s
I will say, at the time the X1 was probably the most stable laptop/Linux combo I had available. then several Intel vulnerabilities happened, were patched, and performance took a shit.
that’s when I bought my first XPS and haven’t looked back until now. since they’re dropping the line I’ll have to look for a new product in the future.
How prescient Orwell turned out to be.
Premium Pro Max Doubleplus Good.
When I was reading the article, my mind was high on memes~
Why the fuck did it even take them that long? Alienware acquisition was in 2006.
I still remember when XPS was the premiere gaming brand Dell released to compete with the likes of Alienware, only for them to buy Alienware and relegate XPS to a higher budget multimedia catalog.
The names outstayed their welcome, but I cannot applaud them copying Apple’s homework.
I was going to joke Dell killed XPS a long, long time ago already.
What would be the Dell option for a conservatively styled laptop that has a GeForce RTX GPU?
Seems that Dell is pushing to their Alienware line but their laptops are just ugly
But which of these new models will have AI?!
Well that sucks. I haven’t bought an XPS since the Dell XPS 15z like over a decade ago, but still, the idea that I could buy an XPS Developer Edition laptop and have it be Linux compatible without having to think about it was nice. Now I’m limited to ThinkPads and System76 plus whatever other compatible Clevos there are or maybe a Framework, which I guess is fine since I do own multiple ThinkPads.
Still, really weird decision.
They’re not actually getting rid of the XPS line, they’re just changing the naming convention.
Any of the new Dell models with ‘Premium’ in the name are going to be the same as the Dell XPS line.
Asus ROG series to MSI seems interesting this CES, personally don’t see much problem with compatibility through Pop!_OS
Weird. I thought XPS was a pretty well known brand.
Stupid higher up decisions, remember HBO?
Something I think is a lot more interesting than them changing names of product lines is that almost all Dells ship with an OEM version of windows which reaches EoL faster, like 5 years sooner, and is more expensive to get a replacement disk image.
I had a tower about 10 years ago that I converted into a dinky little Linux Server, it worked really well all things considered.
what the fuck?
why kill your best brand?
ohhh…because you outsourced your entire product development teams to “offshore units” and haven’t innovated since 2015.
Sounds eerily similar to Intel although they’re trying good with the GPU side of things.
What Intel makes up for in GPU, they loose in CPU.
What AMD makes up for in CPU, they loose in GPU.Now we need Nvidia to see whether it will be a full blown flop or full-on dominatiom.
At that point (with Nvidia) you’d only need a CPU, RAM and a MB to make a nearly all Nvidia PC.
An Nvidia case exists already, GPU, networking (NIC, Switch and cabling)Nvidia would likely prefer to sell a whole package as Apple.
