• Vipsu@lemmy.world
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    If Musk is ready to lie about his gaming achievements then can we really trust anything that comes out from his mouth.

    I mean who cares if Musk is bad at POE2 but the fact that he goes to such lengths to lie about how good he is in a videogame tells a lot about his character and personality.

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      He made a post using command line lingo too, but anyone with even basic knowledge of those commands can tell you that both the syntax and the way he alludes to them are wrong.

      It’s the equivalent of slinging a guitar in a picture to look cool but pressing the side with the strings against your belly.

      1000083817

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      He’s a narcissist. Of course he’s the best at this and everything else he does. Any evidence to the contrary is division by zero.

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        narcissism is a lack of empathy and conpassion. it is not thinking you are better than others.

        An example of how a narcissist would think would be “I barely know anything about this subject and you know even less than I do so you must be a fucking idiot if you know less than my dumb ass”

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          Lack of empathy is a sign of narcissism sure, but so is a pathological need for praise and to feel superior to others.

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                Because it’s not true. Narcissistic personality disorder may included self loathing but it is not a requirement.

                This pattern is shown by the presence of ≥ 5 of the following:

                An exaggerated, unfounded sense of their own importance and talents (grandiosity) Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited achievements, influence, power, intelligence, beauty, or perfect love Belief that they are special and unique and should associate only with people of the highest caliber A need to be unconditionally admired A sense of entitlement Exploitation of others to achieve their own goals A lack of empathy Envy of others and a belief that others envy them Arrogance and haughtiness

                source

                Musk only needs 5. One could easily argue he has all of them.

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                  That’s funny. I’ve only ever known 2 of them personally and they have all of it. The whole damn package. Yeah, that wasn’t fun.

                  Data show that, unlike normative, healthy self-esteem, which is associated with positive outcomes (5–7), narcissistic self-esteem is fragile, because it is highly contingent on achievement-related successes and feedback from the social environment (13–15). Narcissistic self-esteem is thus conceptualized as precariously elevated. When an individual with NPD is faced with an ego threat (e.g., real or imagined criticism, failure, or reduced social regard), unrealistically high self-expectations crumple into perceived inferiority (16, 17). Individuals with NPD are, therefore, hypersensitive to ego threats, and when threatened, they respond with efforts to reduce concomitant distress and upregulate self-esteem (17–19). These regulation strategies include some of NPD’s most recognizable and maladaptive behaviors. Classic “grandiose” responses include being aggressive or devaluing toward others (20, 21), fixating on grandiose fantasies (22), or engaging in self-serving bias (23). Classic “vulnerable” responses include alienating and isolating themselves (24) by avoiding situations that may threaten self-esteem (25), relentlessly criticizing themselves (26–28), or engaging in suicidal behaviors and fantasies (29, 30). This vacillation between overly inflated and deflated self-appraisals, alongside efforts to regulate this unstable sense of self through grandiosity, flawlessness, and/or avoidance, are described in both early psychoanalytic theories of narcissism (31), the contemporary Alternative DSM-5 Model for Personality Disorders (8), and the personality disorder section of the ICD-11 (32–34). It is important to note that research is continually adding nuance to scientific perspectives on self-esteem in NPD (35). Various frameworks differently emphasize shifts between distinct states of grandiosity (i.e., elevated self-esteem, arrogance, and entitlement) and vulnerability (i.e., shame, insecurity, and neuroticism). Scholars are working to clarify whether and how grandiosity may function to conceal ever-present vulnerability and whether fragile self-esteem is a driving force or an outcome of this process (17, 18, 26, 36).

                  Source.

                  So. I guess it’s not actually clear yet which one of us is right (whether it’s ever-present or not).

                  All I can say is that in my (limited) experience they have extreme reactions to any sort of criticism, they take almost everything personal, and this just doesn’t happen with people who are actually really self-confident. I know plenty of confident people and they can handle criticism just fine without throwing huge fucking temper tantrums. It came to a point where I was walking on eggshells trying to never say anything that could be interpreted as criticism, because their fragile ego couldn’t handle it and they’d turn it around on me. Like… trying to make themselves feel better by putting me down. Anyway, I’ll stop dragging my personal issues in here, and just say: perhaps some day we’ll have a definitive answer.

                  Edit: typo.

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            Yes and that need stems from deep insecurity. Narcissists are insecure, but don’t show it. Their whole superiority act is just that, an act. Very convincing, because it’s what they -want- to be, and when people praise them it’s like a confirmation. They’re addicted to it. That’s why they lash out at anyone who sees through it. When you praise them, they’ll treat you like the best friend/lover they’ve ever had, but once you take away the praise… well they become a nightmare.

            See it like this: nobody who is actually self-confident needs to get a constant stream of praise to be happy.

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      It’s like what Trump would do if he were younger and cared about video games.

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      I’m honestly shocked that you have to ask someone if you can trust him.

      He is without a doubt the least trustworthy person on the entire planet. Even less so than Putin i would say.

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        Musk has his loyal fanbase who have been impressed by his achievements with Paypal, Tesla and SpaceX.
        Honestly he seemed all right before 2020’s but after that he’s slowly become more and more radicalized.

        Fortunately his behaviour is alienating a lot of his fanbase, unfortunately they’re getting replaced by more far right fans.

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      The guy can’t miss an opportunity to demonstrate his character and personality. This seems both extraneous and consistent - it’s more of the same data. I think we’ve got his number.

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    Both of these people could fall off a cliff in a burning Tesla and nothing of value would be lost.

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    Actually it’s a dumb point because everyone and their mom already know he got boosted. Both of them should shut up and stop showing their face in public thank you very much.

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      Asmongold is one of these ‘anti-woke’ YouTubers. Spends a fair amount of time complaining about women not looking pretty enough for his standards from what I’ve seen, while he himself looks like a fucking rat, with a bedroom that looks like a rat’s nest. I hate downing people’s looks and I too, have been a depressed mess with a terrifying bedroom before. But also, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

      I don’t actually follow any of these YouTubers and to be honest the only time I ever use YouTube is when I’m in the mood for some music videos but I’ve seen this asshat come up over and over in feminist spaces and places where people make fun of the anti-woke grifters and the idiot marks that adore them.

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        I haven’t personally seen him talk about women but maybe. Some of his other talks about current events seemed very reasonable, though, so I thought he was pretty OK.

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          Here’s the most recent take of his that I’ve seen:

          bafkreibfcozvspah6t7xmjjkhfpkklpeuzgrhbqqgxx4ancjjbzwbscsdi

          But he’s definitely a repeat offender in these circles.

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            When I searched Asmongold “hoeflation” I got a couple results of people talking about it but no results for the post itself.

            I guess indexing for Xitter is broken.

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                  Nah lol, not accusing you of anything. I just thought I’d go and take a look and see if I’d been duped by a photoshopped post but there it is, right at the top. Just below his description of “Professional Neckbeard” and pinned address where all the marks that support him can send him free stuff.

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    Fuck, I hate hearing about these people.

    I think I’m just gonna ignore you. Sorry OP.

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    I like to think this is the start of something important, Musks gaming account, realising that we can seriously sidetrack Trump by calling him the vice president and weird. The public is learning how to enact our own kind of political manipulation.

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    It isn’t a great point.

    Sure, what Musk did only further proves what a pathetic loser he is, but it’s the equivalent of “My girlfriend goes to another school, you haven’t met her”. It isn’t illegal or anything, it’s attempted clout chasing that blew up in his face… it’s just sad.

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    Oh, thank you, Vice! I didn’t know Asmongold was worse than Hitler.

    Garbage journalism what a joke. Fuck, I still remember when Vice was relevant and renowned for the work.

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    how does elon even have time to play video games if he’s the most busiest and hardcore guy of all time?

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      I mostly remember it as reporting abput random ass topics “transsexual ketamine dealers of Uruguay” type of stuff.

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      The craziest part of that article is

      Vice co-founder Shane Smith stepped down as CEO in 2018, but has remained the company’s (…) The Canadian-born journalist’s focus seems to be trained on the southern border, with an editorial line closer to Trump campaign fearmongering than hard news reporting. (Smith is not to be confused with Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes, who left the media company and established the far-right militant group the Proud Boys).

      So two of the three Vice media founders are now far right? I tried to find out more about Suroosh Alvi, the third founder, but didn’t see much. Though on his X (🤢) he posts and reports a bunch of pro Gaza stuff.

      I shouldn’t be surprised cuz it looks like they all got rich off Vice, but still.

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          Not a surprise, dude gives off those vibes in videos as well.

          Some of us remember when Vice was a mean-spirited, local magazine that made fun of the way New Yorkers dressed.

          Not really surprising that those people turned out to be scumbags.

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        I feel like I remember them focusing on the sensation around news and not the actual news. Anything news worthy was included as a matter of context.

        I felt like Vice was as if Beavis and Butthead were reporters, they went to the heart of a story that wasn’t getting much coverage and asked about people’s butts.

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        Their new podcast style conspiracy videos are just terrible, he comes across as a complete moron.

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    Who the fuck cares. Elon, is average moron playing average game. If this was something important, I could understand, but this is nothing more than attention whoring.

    The Worst Person You Know

    Asmon isn’t even close to to the top of the worst people I know. What even is that title?

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    Calling Asmongold the “the worst person you know” is fucking pathetic. He gets consistently shit on by journalists for having the ability to think for himself.

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        Yeah sure whatever you say, keep following the herd. I stopped giving a fuck about your virtue signaling types months ago.

        Go ahead and follow the script to call me a nazi next.

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          Why would you be a nazi? I suspect you are a cnfused child if you think Asmingold is an aspirational figure.

          Asmongold is the kind of guy who is unfuckable despite having money. Why would you want to be that guy?

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            Do you habitual judge people entirely on their fuckability? I mean, I have little opinion of Asmongold except what I see other people saying about him on the internet, but that seems like a weirdly sexualized take on things.

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              When Im talking to an obvious teenaged boy it’s safer to talk in terms they understand. A 15 year old might get why Asmongold isunfuckable but they might not understand why adults would hold him in disdain regardless of what he does.

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                Playing by someone else’s rules means they dictate the conversation. You have significantly less power. If you want people to act like adults, like reasonable people, try treating them that way.

                It may not work, but it’s far more likely to do so than constantly talking down to them.

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                  Have you been paying attention to this conversation? Maybe go back and reread before replying to me. You might find yourself thinking differently when you see my comments and the replies that I got from the start

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            Ah yes because appearance equals value in this dogshit world of yours. Way to admit you dont like him because he is actually popular despite that fact.

            Also a kid using lemmy? get real. Most of us here are 21+ at the least.

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              His personality and hygiene are what makes him unfuckable.

              And based on your responses here, why shouldn’t I continue thinking you’re a boy?

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        Wow that seems pretty harsh.

        You try having something like 50,000 hours of recorded streams without saying something dumb.

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          It’s not what he says rather it is who he is and presents himself as.

          No one should aspire to be a troll that is as uniquely unfuckable as him.

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              So then what was the point of your initial comment? I said no one should model themselves after him. You replied that that was a harsh statement, but if you don’t think anyone should aspire to be like someone else what is the problem?

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                I don’t think he’s a shitty person. He doesn’t actively harm or exploit anyone just spergs out on the internet playing Vidya. If every Texan was an asmongold it would be a half decent state.

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          It’s pretty easy to not say racist and misogynistic shit if you’re not a racist and/or misogynist.

          Like you realize that people aren’t out here struggling every day to not say the n word. That’s not normal.

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              It’s OK, let me help you out:

              Remedial means: “to give a remedy,” or in this context, “to provide a corrective education in order to attain the education level of your contemporaries” (“Contemporaries” means a person living and working at the same time as you).

              Preliminary means: “denoting an action or event preceding or done in preparation of something important.”

              Hopefully that helps!

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                I didn’t say “huh” cuz I didn’t understand you. I said “huh” because I was confused about why you think I’m uneducated/unintelligent.

                Fun fact: There are highly educated and intelligent people with different world views and values than you and other average Lemmy people.

                If someone doesn’t think the same as you - that doesn’t necessarily mean they are dumb or uneducated.

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      I’ve only heard he streams the entirety other people’s work for a living, what are the journalists saying?

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    Such a /technology/ post.

    There is technology in it, like a computer game.