• JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      6·
      4 days ago

      I don’t think so, because with qubits the intermediate values can be non binary but the end result must be binary when read. Unless you wanna make a joke about filling out government forms I guess lol.

  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
    610·
    4 days ago

    No Y = 0

    Presence of Y = 1

    Looks like you can express it with binary if you want, though you would need an interpreter

    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      71·
      4 days ago

      That’s a chromosome you encoded there which is one of a few markers that define sex, not gender.

      • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
        46·
        4 days ago

        Same thing

        It’s meaningless to who the individual is, unless you’re a conservative that believes playing with dolls or wearing makeup makes you a girl but then I don’t care for your opinion

        • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          51·
          4 days ago

          Yes, chromosomes are meaningless to who someone is (except edge-cases).

          No, sex and gender aren’t the same.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
      1·
      4 days ago

      except that genetics isn’t that simple, there’s many many things that go into structuring your body. Even biological sex isn’t binary, there’s plenty of overlap. People can literally be born with both sets of genitals afaik.

    • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      3·
      4 days ago

      You can have a partial Y chromosome or transfer of Y genes to the X chromosome during meiosis which can result in a person with both sets of sex organs, or more rarely, no sex organs at all. Even genetic sex cannot be accurately represented as one bit (let alone gender identity).

      • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
        1·
        4 days ago

        Why are conservatives so obsessed with people’s genitals?

        In both of those cases you can determine whether a y is present or not

        • superminerJG@lemmy.world
          3·
          4 days ago

          for one, a person’s genitals are not necessarily a direct indication of their biological sex, even without considering bottom surgery

          • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
            1·
            4 days ago

            You’re confused, I was saying that

            The person above me was saying otherwise but I think they’re a mean person because if someone was in an accident and lost their parts then they would say they aren’t their gender anymore

            • Kuma@lemmy.world
              2·
              3 days ago

              I might not fully grasp what you said, but from my understanding, they were discussing intersex people. In these cases, it’s not an either/or situation at birth regarding sex characteristics or chromosomes. It could be a mix of various combinations, or sometimes none at all. The Y chromosome might not be fully present, which means a penis might not exist at birth, or it could be very small (and possibly non-functional for urination), but there may still be internal testicles (which I understand is quite common for some “types” of intersex ppl). In your interpretation, does this mean that there are individuals with a Y chromosome and then there is the rest of the population?

              So, we have XY, XYY, XXY versus the others, who might have just one X, two Xs, or a partial Y (I think there were other combinations too). That doesn’t seem very binary to me. It’s like saying you’re either a kid (under 18 in most countries) or an adult, which doesn’t cover everyone and doesn’t say much either. But maybe we took your comment too serious.

              However, labels have always been a tool to simplify life, and they have never been strictly binary. It’s similar to organizing a home with labels, there is always at least one drawer labeled other/miscellaneous.

              There are as many intersex people as there are redheads, and they can have two sets of sex organs, no organs, or a combination of organs. This wide category range is why the person you responded to mentioned the parts, as these visibly influence how one’s sex is documented. Intersex conditions can sometimes make this categorization extremely challenging.

              • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
                1·
                3 days ago

                I appreciate the depth of your answer

                Under my system they would still fall under the “has Y” or “Y absent” grouping

                I do think a genetic blood test at birth would fix that issue of misidentification but since gender (y vs no y) should be meaningless to the majority of people, because everyone is equal and free to express themselves, it’s not worth the cost of doing it until there’s a need to affirm someone’s gender

  • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
    5·
    3 days ago

    Approximation is an important tool for compressing information into useable forms. All labels are limited approximations too. Such compression is inevitably lossy, but that is a sacrifice for the sake of practicality. The important question is what level of compression is acceptable for a given context. If I describe the location of a chess piece on the board, I don’t need to specify how far off-center on its square a given piece is, so a 0-7 offset along each of the two axes is enough for game purposes.

    When it comes to gender, I think we all agree that [0, 1] is insufficient, but how do we determine what is sufficient? Do we argue that a 2-bit vector (masc, fem) is enough to describe {neither, fem, masc, both} for rough rounding, or do we need more detailed values along those axes, or perhaps a third axis too (or more)?

    • DeadMartyr@lemmy.zip
      3·
      3 days ago

      This is a very nice and effective blurb, I’m saving this comment for future use

      There’s no awards/medals here but take this: 🥇

      • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
        1·
        2 days ago

        Honestly, “I found this useful/interesting/amusing/worth leaving a positive comment avout” is the only award I need. Thanks for the words of appreciation ❤️

  • MeatPilot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    4 days ago

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  • logging_strict@lemmy.ml
    63·
    4 days ago

    lets burn down our civilizations by spending all our wealth discussing this

    The issue is based on legal terminology. Gender isn’t a legal thing only pushed into our vocabulary.

    Allocate an unbound memory blob and sit back for the herd of the Rust coders to line up. Sell them a soda while they do their best chicken parody

  • RandomVideos@programming.dev
    251·
    4 days ago

    Even if every single person in the world had a unique gender, you could store that in 33 bits

    You can store that in a small QR code

    • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
      31·
      3 days ago

      There are n types of people in this world: Those who don’t understand numeral systems, those who understand base x systems for x ∈ [2, n] and those who get pedantic about this meta-joke.

    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      31·
      5 days ago

      There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get ternary; those who don’t; those who thought this was going to be a binary joke

      • stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        12·
        4 days ago

        There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get quaternary; those who don’t; those who thought this was going to be a ternary joke; those who can see where this is going…

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
            5·
            4 days ago

            Regardless of what base you’re using, 10 is always the nth number. In base 10 (normal numbers), 10 is 10th. In base 2 it is the 2nd.

            1. 1
            2. 10
            3. 11

            In base 16 (hexadecimal) it is the 16th.

            1. 1
            2. 2
            3. 3
            4. 4
            5. 5
            6. 6
            7. 7
            8. 8
            9. 9
            10. A
            11. B
            12. C
            13. D
            14. E
            15. F
            16. 10

            The original joke is “there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don’t l” because 10 in binary is 2 in base 10. But they’re pointing out that a similar joke works for all bases of numbers.