ASHEVILLE, North Carolina, Jan 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said he would sign an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally overhauling or eliminating the Federal Emergency Management Agency. “FEMA has turned out to be a disaster … I think we recommend that FEMA go away,” he said during a tour of North Carolina to see damage done by Hurricane Helene last year.
“But my egg prices” - morons about to have a very bad 2025 Atlantic hurricane season.
We all warned you this would happen. This move was plainly outlined in Project 2025. Nobody tricked you, you’re just fucking morons.
B b but Trump claimed he never heard of project 2025. He wouldn’t just lie to the American people right?
Accusing gentle Mr. Trump of a misdeed?
Absolutely not, I love Trump mister TSS officer
I’m sorry but it’s either just Trump or Mrs. Trump now. Respect the law.
Mrs. Trump
At least now we know who’s the bottom.
Tornado, hurricane, and fire seasons, here we go! Jippy kayey! Modafakas!
These budget cuts are getting weird.
It’s almost like we are losing the cold war in real time.
As has been Russia’s playbook since at least the late 90’s. It’s just now all coming to head
Yeah, they’re not cutting subsidies to businesses, rolling back tax breaks, or anything that affects the deep pockets. Nope. They’re cutting stuff that helps people at home and abroad. Cut FEMA here, cut foreign aid. Eliminating housing and food help.
I mean, they kind of said they were going to take this tack pretty clearly
Sure. But the people that needed to understand that weren’t listening.
Leopards ate my face is a thing for a reason
Selectively listening I think
If you plan to drill baby, drill, natural disasters are only going to get worse, so they are mitigating against future emergency budgets they don’t want to pay by scrapping FEMA—leaving them free to destroy the environment and cut taxes with no future blowback, because states’ rights or some shit.
This is money that will just stay with the states. For the best for places like California and Washington. For the worst for places like Florida.
Which is to say that this is terrible, but if states aren’t giving money to FEMA, the money will stay there.
florida, louisana, and texas. far and away the largest recipients of fema dollars over the last decade.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/fema-direct-payments-state-recipients
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t FEMA funded out of the Federal budget? Meaning if they cut FEMA, that money will just go elsewhere, not “just stay with the states”.
EDIT added clarification.
Hmm, I’ll have to look into it. Not sure.
Yes, but it’s blue states that contribute the most and red states that take the most. Without the federal government distributing these tax dollars, red states won’t be able to afford disaster recovery.
‘elsewhere’ as in tax breaks for the wealthy and funneled to lord diaper’s designated recipients.
All those hurricane victims that complained about “illegals” getting some FEMA (but it wasn’t FEMA money, not that they cared) money got their wish. They won’t get any more FEMA money. Maybe nobody else will, either.
Florida’s about to be unaffordable for millions of Americans. FEMA’s NFIP program had been disproportionately keeping cost of flood insurance low for millions of people in hurricane/flood regions along the Gulf coast, but now the market alone will dictate rates if FEMA is taken out of the picture.
Don’t worry. They’ll make sure handouts to red states won’t stop. It’s only blue states that’ll get fucked.
now the market alone will dictate rates if FEMA is taken out of the picture
Nah, Florida will just pass a law making it illegal for insurers to leave the state. Surely that will work!
Didn’t they actually pass something near to that already?
They’d save more effort by making it illegal for hurricanes to hit Florida. Borrow Trump’s marker and make them hit Alabama instead.
California apparently is in the news regarding secession again. But we have to also consider that it’s BS designed to create more divisiveness.
It’s established what happens should a state decide to secede. There was a war fought over it. It’s not worth speculating about unless it’s happening.
California may get some sort of autonomy out of it though.
He’s going to form the department of paper towel throwing
Fuck it. Bye Texas. Bye Florida. You will not be missed.
I’ll miss me, but also not really. I’ve already accepted that I’m probably gonna die before Trump is out of office—I don’t know if it’s better to go out in a concentration camp or some unmanaged aftermath of a natural disaster.
You could move up north if you have the funds
They live in Texas, they likely don’t have the funds.
Written by someone that lives in texas.
Take some fascists with you.
Yeah that’s not how this plays out. This will only affect states that he wants it to to affect, and when.
Yeah… probably :(
The south hurt itself in its confusion.
…again
I think you misunderstand his goal here. This won’t stop him from giving aid to the people/states who help him. This will only stop FEMA helping everyone unconditionally. He isn’t trying to stop aid. He’s trying to stop aid without strings attached. This is a power play.
States would need to create an emergency bureaucracy redundant to each other state. California or Texas could do it but good luck South Dakota.
Plus read about how he specifically didn’t want emergency response people ready to jump in and help, just money. Money to be allocated on personal choice, not need, to the governor. Money for the governor to allocate by personal choice, not need, to communities and companies. This is about buying favors all the way down.
Just like the covid crisis (it’s a hoax) where he said it would ‘disappear’, President Felon & his cult will leave us all to die without any help or caring from our government, that we fund !
Funds for me, not for thee.
It’s kind of funny when you put it that way because the FEMA claims and reimbursement process is so convoluted and labor intensive that those funds often only go to the wealthy.
FEMA funds are often only for [the wealthy] and not for [the poor]. FEMA absolutely needs an overhaul, but probably not the one Trump has in mind.
wtf, I got fema cash once. No paperwork. No convoluted process. I’m certainly not wealthy although I was surprised to qualify. Just money directly to fund repairs
Many of us have direct experience getting FEMA relief and cash. We disagree with your claim.
Here is some research on the inequitable distribution of Stafford Act disbursements. They go to wealthy and white neighborhoods that have the resources to navigate the barriers to receiving funding. People in these neighborhoods have an easier time passing through the federal government’s fraud detection barriers, and are more likely to receive support from their (better-funded) local governments in filing for and receiving federal aid. FEMA payouts and insurance payouts are often intertwined, and this leads to further red tape, delays, and denials.
That said, I’ll admit that I may be biased because my mental model on the topic almost entirely comes from a former boss who relied on talking up these inequities to secure investment funding for a tool we claimed we wanted to design (in our public messaging) to help people navigate these barriers, organize their claims paperwork, and receive funding.
I would agree with the assessment that there can be a lack of fraud investigation, or even simply the inability to determine what areas need help vs. not, so they blanket approve some places. Whether or not that approval is driven by demographics I can’t say, only that in-laws who did not get much damage from one of the past storms had complete opportunity to claim some money for “whatever damage there was”, and didn’t because…that’s the wrong thing to do morally. How many people would do that, probably not 100%. But I don’t blame FEMA in concept, only in its funding and organization, and not being manned well enough to do its job well.
Looks like Trump fixed that problem by just removing it altogether. Free market disaster response will be a fascinating thing to document. Not to live through.
Fully agree.
+1. i got money from fema in 2017 and all i had to do was sign a webform saying i was impacted by the hurricane that just hit
How long until we start hearing about politicians having legitimate discussions about secession? The whole point of the Union is to help each other out.
California already is having those discussions. They’re collecting required signatures.
That’s just normal CA ballot measure BS. It’s the actual senators and reps that I’m wondering about.
Here in Michigan I am all for it. Fuck these stupid ass southern morons, I don’t want to share anything with them let alone a country. Fuck off and no you can’t have our water, eat shit redneck.
Putin wins
Every accusation is a project. They will turn FEMA into what they’ve been accusing FEMA of.
Now we know where they’ll put those accused of illegal immigration.
The amount of americans this will kill would demand retaliation if putin had used kinetic warfare instead.
Trump: fuck the poor, they’re on their own.
This is a decades long goal of Republicans. This is what I grew up with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA_camps_conspiracy_theory
More recently https://www.fema.gov/node/rumor-fema-operations-threats
Yay
This 1million%
Also grew up being promised that any day now, 1) Bill Clinton will take all the guns, and 2) We’ll go to FEMA camps to get gassed. It was all part of the UN Agenda 21 thing that George HW Bush/Clintons/Soros/CNN/Bill Gates and the New World Order One-World-Government are bringing.
Except none of that ever happened. Hm…were those guests on Art Bell in 1998 possibly…wrong?
And yet, 30 years later, here we are.
I think if he denies a state assistance because they won’t play his games, other countries step in and send all the assistance that state could want. Imagine if China just threw billions of dollars at LA without conditions to make a point. I don’t expect Xi to be that smart, but it would be funny as hell watching Trump scramble.
I remember a story about a remote town that needed a bridge replaced. And the federal government was dragging their feet about it until the town wrote to the Soviet Union about helping them build the bridge.
Xi and Trump seem to coordinate pretty closely. If Trump weakened US cohesiveness and Xi stepped in, Trump would thank him and kiss his ass.
