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      And when more parents start giving their kids raw milk, what then?

      Forcing kids to eat dangerous food is child abuse.

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      Unfortunately it’s not that simple. Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it’s more likely to mutate and spread. It’s never the risk-accepters that suffer most. It’s always the sick, the poor, the very young and the very old, and the healthcare workers who suffer. The people who refused to get vaccines or take even basic precautions with COVID killed a lot of people, while the vast majority of those assholes survived.

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        A coworker of mine (African American) lost three cousins to COVID. Minorities are less likely to have good healthcare or the resources to pay out of pocket when necessary. I’m mostly on team Darwin too but I agree it’s not just the idiots that will get hurt. The way things are going schools might even start teaching that raw milk isn’t that harmful.

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        Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it’s more likely to mutate and spread.

        Every single person that contracts the HPAI H5N1 virus is a few billion chances for the virus to mutate and generate a strain that is able to spread from person to person. These people are throwing dice over and over and when they come up snake eyes, we are all going to lose.

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          But then the fault is obviously DEI, because it made the birds gay or something…

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    They are voracious readers and consume a large amount of testing data, let the option be there, they are capitalist so the market will cull the product if its not wanted/needed.

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        Hey now, you also need to know they listen to vloggers on youtube and twitter too, see they are using a wide variety of sources, and I am sure they checked their sources on the subjects.

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            You know they never can cite them, they just say they do. I always found it odd, but I always thought maybe the teachers were failing them in comprehension and citations. But who am I to think they would bold face lie on the internet to make themselves seem like something they had every chance to be but just couldnt get off their ass to be that.

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      Except they’re also giving it to their kids, who are far more susceptible to the diseases

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          What you said is horrible and you should feel horrible.

          But your willing to sacrifice children’s lives for your own political goals is noted. Israel does something similar.

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              Why are you assuming that? Do you think fascism is a genetic trait? Which gene is the fascism gene?

              Are your politics the same as your parents? Because I sure as fuck am not a Zionist like my father was.

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              You really are not connecting A and B here.

              They said there should be a general strike. I said to them that 40% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck, meaning that missing work means not being able to feed and house their kids.

              They said they can just take their kids to a soup kitchen. Which, and I don’t know how to make this any clearer to you, will not stop their kids from getting taken away from them because they’re homeless.

              So you’re right, they aren’t responsible for other people’s kids and neither are you. You just both expect people to sacrifice them anyway.

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                look bro, would i push for a law that allows raw milk to be sold? Probably not, if they push one, am i going to stop them just because they might end up killing people? Also no, collateral damage is still damage, and we’re so far gone it’s not gonna improve much at this point.

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                  This has absolutely nothing to do with what is being discussed, which is child abuse.

                  Both of you keep trying to change the subject.

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        Ok, so they get to watch their kids die at their own hands, and then head off to jail. Problem seems to be fixing itself.

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      Cows are getting avian influenza. Farm workers are getting it from the chickens and cows. There is concern that people may eventually catch bird flu from raw milk. The more people get infected, the greater the odds that a mutation will develop that allows human to human transmission. Unfortunately, we may, yet again, have all of our lives and livelihoods threatened by people too ignorant to take even the most basic precautions for self preservation.

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    I drank milk from the tank and cream is the best. However, I still prefer pasteurized milk. If the MAGAts want to drink raw milk, let them and watch the green apple splatter flow.

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    You know what, just let it happen. I’ll just do my best to stay away from any milk for four years. We’ll see how things turn out afterwards.

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    The good news is that drinking raw milk will disproportionately kill conservatives. Every dead conservative is a net win for society.

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    Fun fact: nearly 40% of all foodborne illnesses were caused by raw milk consumption. Pasteurization has reduced that number down to less than 1%, except in places where raw milk consumption is still allowed.

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      Been only buying organic milk for 10+ years now out of preference, it stays fresh for much longer than normal milk. This is because USDA Organic milk is ultra-pasteurized in almost the same way as shelf-stable milk.

      I searched and found this article and they reported that there’s virtually no difference in nutrients between the options:

      https://www.100daysofrealfood.com/is-ultra-pasteurized-milk-bad/

      So if all the nutrients are the same, the only difference in less pasteurization is more bacteria. Fuck that!

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        I think it definitely affects the taste though doesn’t it? I prefer the organic ones that are vat pasteurized due to that reason, ultra feels sweeter to me.

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        Under certain conditions, and it still poses a risk as the proper labeling of it suggests.

        The NLH has some literature on the unnecessary amount of people that are made sick, and some that have died as a result of consuming raw milk.

        Take a look.

        If you want to believe it’s harmless, and consume it despite warnings, you are free to do so. But I can’t in good conscience allow you to misinform people without due diligence. Now everyone can weigh the risks after having been given both sides of the argument.

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            What’s the point though. I don’t eat raw meat or raw eggs so why would I eat raw milk. If it contains protein and fat then my nutritional needs are satisfied - simple as that really

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              The opinion of a person apparently never had steak tartar, sashimi, met, whisky sours made properly, or eggs over easy is pretty much worthless.

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                I eat fried eggs over easy most days of the week. I’ve had sushi and sashimi multiple times. Never had steak tartar and I don’t drink anymore though.

                Haven’t heard of runny egg yolk posing the same risk of containing harmful bacteria as raw milk.

                Steak tartar and sushi fish have to come from certified producers as far as i know. Surely raw milk is the same.

                But I doubt anyone eats those things every day of the week, throughout the day, like they do with milk.

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    Why do these fucking morons always want the objectively worst thing? The absolute dumbest thing you can think of and they’re all for it. Why is the world like this now? I can’t fucking stand it. “Let’s get rid of the FDA and OSHA!” Like, what the fuck is this horse shit. This shouldn’t be allowed to happen! I’m legitimately losing my sanity more and more each day.

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        What’s wrong with the taste of pasteurized milk? Does the salmonella in the raw milk give it extra spiciness or something?

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          See this is what I mean. You have literally no idea what milk actually tastes like, just that sugar water sold in stores these days.

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            That’s not an answer.

            Also, I don’t see any sugar listed here as an added ingredient, just the sugar that’s naturally in cow’s milk. You know cow’s milk naturally has sugar in it, right? Even the raw kind?

            Is Müller lying to the British government?

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              That is absolutely an answer. You need to try it at least once in your life, you literally don’t know what you are talking about.

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                Your answer was based on the falsehood that the milk I drink has added sugar, which it does not.

                So sure, it’s an answer, it’s just a lying answer.

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      it’s because the government wants to fuck of us over duuude !! everything they say we should do opposite!! the government is a giant monolith and every human that works for them magically agrees to the same ideologies which force us to drink raw milk!! because they agreed pasteurized milk is good therefore it is bad !!

      that’s really all they think