Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! ✨

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! ✨

  • Stomata@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    12·
    2 days ago

    Telegram is not end to end encrypted. Repeating it’s not. Only private mode or something like that is.

    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
      57·
      2 days ago

      You don’t say? A cloud-service I can access from all devices plus API and bots is not e2e-encrypted with zero knowledge? I’m shocked. That’s what “secret chat” is for. Literally.

      They chose this way as the regular Joe and Jane don’t care for privacy but for comfort. You can never ever have both. Nowhere.

      I love tgram for it being so open. And e2e when I need it. I don’t need privacy for when my smarthome sends me notifications about a light I left on or something 😁

      • Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml
        11·
        1 day ago

        WhatsApp is E2EE and it does maintain some of the “cloud” functionality, at the expense of the device transfers being a pain and potentially you losing your message history if you don’t have a backup.

        • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
          1·
          7 hours ago

          Despite being us-american and from Zuckerberg, it’s an incredibly horrible app. I would not touch this shit with a 10m-pole. It might be e2e, but can I verify this in the source? Oh right.

      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
        1·
        2 days ago

        Yep, and this allows for proper content moderation. Telegram can actually just find and report creeps to authorities

        • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
          1·
          2 days ago

          That too. Sadly the restrictiveness was badly abused. Noone really wonders but…that’s why we can’t have nice things.

            • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
              1·
              2 days ago

              I meant the restrictiveness towards governments. The pesos and Nazis fucked that up, tgram had to do something or have their ill repute grow even more.

              • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
                1·
                2 days ago

                Telegram seems to be a popular option for groups of such orgs. Other apps have the same risks tho. It’s a bit if a mess

                • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
                  1·
                  7 hours ago

                  I actually always deemed that a quality aspect. If those shitbags use tgram it has a reason. Sadly it’s not really great for the app itself. So he had to do something about it. IMHO the best compromise he could do other than just staying “the bad guy”.