Since being on Lemmy I feel like I finally found a place I can consider more similar to my home on the web… I feel like this is the real decentralized web, not the next capitalism nightmare which is the so called “web3”…

Give me some guidance! How is the federation thing going? What are some cool projects I need to know about? I know Lemmy, Friendica, Matrix, Bookwyrm, Mastodon, but I’m sure there’s more!

    • dontblink@feddit.itOPEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Didn’t know about CENO, it looks super cool! Might have to dig more into TOR as well

  • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    There’s only like 20 some federated projects. I recommend you read into FOSS, self hosting, and Linux as this is what most of us are into and is along the same lines

  • toastal@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Since Git can already be federated (no MS GitHub required), take a look at Darcs & Pijul for a better version control model based on Patch Theory. Tooling needs help, but fundamentals are sound.

    Everything in the XMPP world is worth checking out. Movim is one of the more interesting projects bring a social media option to the platform & pushing boundaries for clients that is cool to see—as well as Libervia for setting up communities.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Peertube (Youtube-like) and Loops (Tiktok-like) and Pixelfed (Instagram-like Photosharing service) are growing.

  • Daeraxa@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    A few I’ve been interested in.

    One I’m surprised I haven’t seen (although might inappropriate for the standard, no idea) is an activitypub messenging service like Matrix

    • Jonathan@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      The developer of Pixelfed - an Instagram-alike (and now Loops.video - a TikTok like platform) announced that he is working on an ActivityPub messaging service called “Sup.” There’s nothing else really known about it except that he’s developing it. AP would actually work fairly well as a messaging protocol aside from the lack of end-to-end encryption, but that too is being worked on.

      • Daeraxa@lemmy.ml
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        1 month ago

        I thought I had heard about him making that before but no amount of searching seemed to find it… I guess thats why, I was thinking I had just made it up or something.

        • Jonathan@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          I know how that is! Seems like I’m constantly wondering if I just made this or that up. 🤷🏻‍♂️

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 month ago

        AP would actually work fairly well as a messaging protocol

        except when a temporary disruption in the connection results in new posts/comments/etc to not get delivered

        • Jonathan@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          But that’s true of any network connected messaging protocol, making sure a message is delivered could be implemented client side. The issue with AP objects not making it to other clients / servers is more about federation discovery.

          • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            1 month ago

            no, it isn’t for

            • matrix, because if the servers ever connect again, the message will get through. this is what’s called an “eventually consistent” system
            • any mainstream and semi-mainstream messengers, where there is a single server (from the users’ point of view), and the message just can’t get lost (randomly)

            the client shouldn’t be dealing with issues between servers. that’s the servers responsibility. if the server has told the client that it got the message, what is there anymore for the client to do?

            The issue with AP objects not making it to other clients / servers is more about federation discovery.

            I don’t think so. if you know the recipient, you know it’s servername too. and then your server can forward it to theirs.

            I think the problem here is that messages are not always delivered.

  • iii@mander.xyzEnglish
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    1 month ago

    What are some cool projects I need to know about?

    Email, usenet

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        1 month ago

        You have to create a Briar profile in the app, then go to “Request Forums” on the webpage copy paste their link and add them, and you also have to copy paste your link and put it on the webpage in the blank space where is says “Enter your Briar Link”

    • hallettj@leminal.spaceEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I think of sourcehut has already-federated git hosting because to send the equivalent of a pull request instead of making an account you send patches via email using git’s built-in email workflow. Email is federated, therefore that is federated git collaboration.

      • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        1 month ago

        The whole workflow and philosophy of sourcehut is so different than GitHub though. I think a lot more people would be interested in GitHub, but federated.

        There’s also this which some people may care about.

  • balsoft@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Federated browsers

    That’s literally just regular browsers, you can interact with any one of billions of webservers

    Federated github

    Git is federated by nature, you can add as many remotes as you wish and push/pull to all of them. Add in a mailing list for issue tracking and “pull requests” (patch submissions) and you’re golden. You can look up sourcehut to self-host a well-integrated combination of the two.

    Federated hosting providers

    Not sure what exactly you mean by this but maybe take a look at IPFS, although it’s more P2P then federation.

    Federated internet

    Internet is already fairly federated by nature - most commonly used protocols in the OSI stack are open and you can host your own components of critical infrastructure. Getting others to interact with them might be difficult due to security & privacy issues.