• Redex@lemmy.world
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    This would get an immediate Custom -> 0% from me the moment I see it.

    Fucking “soso” for a 20% tip the hell

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      They know there’s soft, weak people like me that find it painful because the guy in front of you can see it. I mean, I’m a good principled person and I’ve still done it, but I felt like trash in the process.

      I guess it was just a matter of time before other classes than the bottom one figured out aggressive panhandling.

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        but I felt like trash in the process.

        the corpo knows, thats why it does it. don’t let corpo punk you like that.

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      If this is in a restaurant after I’ve eaten, it would get 0% and I’d never go there again.
      If this is presented to me somewhere you pay before consuming your food/purchase, I’m leaving without paying.

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      Man I’d leave a 1% tip just in case someone sees it and realizes that it was on purpose because I’m annoyed with the UX

      Also, holy hell, am I glad to live in a country that doesn’t do tipping*. It was a bit weird going to the US and not knowing when to tip and when not to, but I doubt I’ll be revisiting y’all in the next 4 years anyway :(

      *At restaurants with table service, it’s considered polite, but not necessary, to tip, if you enjoyed the experience.

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    30% is “soso” but a 100% is only “Thank You”? In this case the 100% should be “Walk over to the other side of the register so the boss can blow You”.

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    I know tipping culture is extreme, but I’ve never seen 100%. I don’t think this is real.

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      I can’t find the original image, it’s just been reshared dozens of times on Xitter, Threads, Facebook and Reddit, but nobody is adding context or naming and shaming.

      So yeah, probably just ragebait.

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          I reverse image searched on mobile to try find the origin / source of this specific image to see if it was legit.

          I wasn’t excluding the possibility of some company in the world prompting for a 100% tip, hence why I didn’t spend 10 seconds googling for it.

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          Similar interface, different values. Not to say that the one in the article isn’t absolutely egregious as well though, so my point only really matters if you care about OP’s image specifically.

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      I have seen similar suggestion levels including 100% in Vegas, Seattle, and other large metro areas.

      If I saw a 30% option described by the establishment as “soso”, I would strongly consider stepping away “to the bathroom” forever.

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        What… “I’ve never seen the least of those until a decade ago”. It’s such a weird comment, like if someone said they got their first EV and you reply with “I never had a vehicle at all until 25 years ago.” See how incredibly odd that is? It’s got major “I like turtles” feel, even though it’s on topic.

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      Maybe it’s your job to avoid patronizing places that don’t pay their employees enough though?

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        I absolutely will pick the no-tips place given a choice, but I take issue with that wording. Basically every business pays as little as possible, by design.

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            I suppose, but it’s really hard to separate. You have to pick a cutoff, which in the face of a world full of intangible wealth and costs is hard, and then if you come out with a number that’s too high you basically have nowhere you can shop.

            There’s select industries that are super shitty, and I avoid those, but paying minimum wage for unskilled labour is a normal industry. (And, ironically, a lot of the fair-ethical-organic type businesses are super shitty themselves, because everyone wants to get paid extra and some will do horrible things to make that happen)

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              You’re saying this like it’s necessary to eat in restaurants with waiters. It isn’t. It’s a luxury.

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                Wait, where are you? I thought I recognised you from .ca, but it sounds like you might be thinking of the US system where they can pay nothing except tips. In my province you earn at least minimum wage as a waiter, and tips.

                If I were to just straight up refuse to eat from restaurants under any circumstance, I’d be heavily incurring those intangible costs I mentioned, because it’s an expected social thing. That being said, I might consider it if I was in the US, but I’m not.

                Also, tips have expanded well beyond servers, but that’s kind of beside the point.

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                  Well you thought wrong. I was born and raised in the U.S. and lived there until about two weeks ago when we fled.

                  And in my 47 years in America, I was never in a situation where I couldn’t say, “no thanks” if someone invited me to a restaurant. And who invites you to restaurants and makes you pay?

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            I would happily pay more for my meal if it meant I didn’t have to tip. The benefit we get from not tipping is marginal compared to the benefit restaurant owners get by not paying living wage. Not to mention it’s added stress to the actual people doing the work because they don’t even get the guarantee of a decent paycheck.

            And there is a choice, you chose to perpetuate the system that grossly exploits the laborer, I choose to have minimal participation in such a system. Want to take a guess which of the two actually has a chance to fix the system?

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                But you are defending the system. You’re literally saying if you end up in a place that expects tipping then you should tip. What if you’re going out with a group and that group decides to go somewhere that expects tipping? Are you supposed to remove yourself from the group so you wouldn’t go into a place like that?

                You can’t take this black and white stance where if you end up participating in this system you also have to perpetuate that system. Making the customer feel like they’re responsible for the livelihood of the staff is how this tipping culture is kept alive and that is exactly what you’re doing right now. You’re trying to claim we are responsible for their livelihood simply because we stepped into the restaurant and ate.

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        No, it’s not, however as a near-minimum wage worker myself, it is also not my job to cover a massive corporation’s lack of proper budgeting…

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          If you keep patronizing such businesses, why would they ever do that? They know they don’t have to in order to get your money. And it is the same with your own near-minimum wage job. You are working against your own best interests. Nothing will change while people are willing to give their money to companies that don’t pay their workers a fair wage.

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            Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against tipping if the person did a good job, but a company trying to guilt trip me into giving them a mandatory tip? Nah, that’s bullshit, it’s essentially “Oh, we can’t pay our employees enough, would you mind helping 🥺”. Outta here with that.

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              Right,so don’t use those businesses. You give them no reason to do anything differently.

              All you are doing is helping to maintain the status quo.

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                I would not, that’s… what I’m trying to imply here… Yeah, businesses who don’t pay their employees enough bad.

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                I think it is the case of “you think in the right direction, but you don’t do it all the way, so now I’m gonna attack you over this until you stop doing anything”.

                Not paying tips is a good start.

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                  How? Those people just aren’t going to get the money. Its not like the company is going to pay them extra because you didnt tip. Theyve already decided that the wage will be low Your logic doesn’t really make sense

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                  Rewarding the employer for underpaying the employees is not, in any way, the right direction, though? Not tipping is just telling the employees “I don’t care if you get paid, so long as I get what I want”

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                You don’t get it, I think? The point is to get the workers to quit or protest because they don’t get paid enough, so that the place can increase the prices instead so they can pay their workers. If the place is still providing a nice service or good food or whatever it may be, you don’t want it to go out of business. Just make a worker-positive change.

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                  Most people won’t quit, especially in the US from what I know. If they are already underpaid, how can they quit? And if pretty much every place treats waiters the same, what choice do they have?

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                  It takes everyone to fix these issues. It is not a one-sided job. Every time you give these establishments money, you help them.

                  And there is no shortage of replacement waiters out there for the ones who quit.

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    soso is the same sound as a word that means breasts in my mother tongue.

    Could be worth it under the best of circumstances.

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        And they’re perfect for this kind of thing! What better way to punish rude tip demands? Despite how rude it is, you don’t want to throw someone in jail over this. A fine? You risk the fine being so low it’s just a cost of business or so high you just ruined some service worker’s life. This is exactly where the pillory shines!

        Demand a tip like this? To the stockades with you! Spend an afternoon chained up by the sidewalk, while people throw tomatoes at you. No real harm done. Just public embarrassment.

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          I gu-ar-an-tea the server didn’t make up those tips, so we’re talking about the manager, or corporate flunky in the stocks, right?

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            This seems something done by the servers. The managers, let alone corporate, don’t care about the tip amounts. Why would corporate design a system to enrage customers, when corporate isn’t the one receiving the money?

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            it’s going to be corporate, In-store managers have practically no control. The person in charge of these practices is likely to be titled a regional director or similar, and even then they are going to be “translating” and implementing board/owner instructions.

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      Presenting the possibility to tip on the screen is ok, I think. The tone (and from my European perspective the percentages) is, what I find weird.

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        I agree, the %s are too high, and there should be a “no tip” option there (even though you should tip here especially full service but not counter service), but also the “30% soso?!” Even I’m not tipping this one.