• Mister Neon@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    I know tipping culture is extreme, but I’ve never seen 100%. I don’t think this is real.

    • .Donuts@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      I can’t find the original image, it’s just been reshared dozens of times on Xitter, Threads, Facebook and Reddit, but nobody is adding context or naming and shaming.

      So yeah, probably just ragebait.

    • vincenttwice@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      I have seen similar suggestion levels including 100% in Vegas, Seattle, and other large metro areas.

      If I saw a 30% option described by the establishment as “soso”, I would strongly consider stepping away “to the bathroom” forever.

      • M137@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        What… “I’ve never seen the least of those until a decade ago”. It’s such a weird comment, like if someone said they got their first EV and you reply with “I never had a vehicle at all until 25 years ago.” See how incredibly odd that is? It’s got major “I like turtles” feel, even though it’s on topic.

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    18 hours ago

    soso is the same sound as a word that means breasts in my mother tongue.

    Could be worth it under the best of circumstances.

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        18 hours ago

        And they’re perfect for this kind of thing! What better way to punish rude tip demands? Despite how rude it is, you don’t want to throw someone in jail over this. A fine? You risk the fine being so low it’s just a cost of business or so high you just ruined some service worker’s life. This is exactly where the pillory shines!

        Demand a tip like this? To the stockades with you! Spend an afternoon chained up by the sidewalk, while people throw tomatoes at you. No real harm done. Just public embarrassment.

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          18 hours ago

          I gu-ar-an-tea the server didn’t make up those tips, so we’re talking about the manager, or corporate flunky in the stocks, right?

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            14 hours ago

            This seems something done by the servers. The managers, let alone corporate, don’t care about the tip amounts. Why would corporate design a system to enrage customers, when corporate isn’t the one receiving the money?

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            17 hours ago

            it’s going to be corporate, In-store managers have practically no control. The person in charge of these practices is likely to be titled a regional director or similar, and even then they are going to be “translating” and implementing board/owner instructions.

  • 1984@lemmy.today
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    16 hours ago

    Maybe the restaurants should pay their employees so customers don’t have to pay them? I know it’s a radical thought.

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      9 hours ago

      I hate to break this to you, but the customer pays in all scenarios.

      But, yes, the employer should pay a living wage and include their overhead costs into the price of the goods.

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        8 hours ago

        Wages should not be dependant on the kindness of strangers.

        I’m not mad about paying it. I’m mad that the employer is treating it as an option and not an obligation

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      16 hours ago

      Honestly it should be both. Restaurants should pay minimum wage at the very least and then customers should be able to tip if they want. I have no issue tipping if the server did a good job. However, I’m not going to tip bad service.

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t know. I don’t think people who work as servers can affect if the food is bad, or if kitchen messes up stuff… They just take your order and get your food. I’m not sure why they should also act like they like you, and you are their favorite person in the world when you come into the restaurant… :)

        I know you didn’t say any of that and with good service, thats maybe not what you meant. Just wanted to say my own opinion about service… I guess I don’t expect them to be fake and I don’t like it if they are.

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          15 hours ago

          I can see where you are at. I mean if a server is good then im more likely to be a repeat customer so its something the owner should take into account. Maybe the whole thing should be flipped on its head and it should be treated like a sales role and they get a percent of sales.

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            15 hours ago

            This is the best option. I had a restaurant owner that lives in a millions of dollars home, say that raising the minimum wage would make it hard for them to survive. Okay.

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            12 hours ago

            The same goes for the cook though. If the food is good I’m more likely to come back. And the people who do the cleaning - if the restaurant is clean I’m also more likely to be a repeat customer. So perhaps let the whole team have a percent of sales.

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          15 hours ago

          I’m not going to be a dick to them. I know they can’t control what happens in the kitchen or other customers.

          What I care most about is if they are reasonably attentive and nice to talk to. They don’t need to be to crazy but they also should care about my experience somewhat. Typically I tip around 15% but if the service is really bad I’ll go lower and if I feel they did exceptionally I’ll complement them and leave something closer to a 20% tip

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      10 hours ago

      Especially because a lot of people in this thread seem to protest the tipping system by just not tipping. That only hurts the worker, y’all. It isn’t gonna change the system.

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        4 hours ago

        Part of the reason it shard to change the system is because of resistance from the waiters who make a lot of money from tips, so yes, not tipping does help change the system.

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    18 hours ago

    Back when 15% was considered standard I liked tipping closer to 30%, but as a direct result of the push to try to make 15% seem low I no longer tip more than 15%.

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      17 hours ago

      My tipping follows the inverse of how much I am paying for the product. If the product is well priced and the service was good I have been known to tip 100% for excellent service. Now that everything is nearly double the cost of what it used to be I am more inclined to tip 50 cents to a dollar max.

      They should be paying exceptionally well for what they are charging, but we know that isn’t the case. I don’t have unlimited wealth to spend either, fuck me for being poor and wanting some comfort “restaurant” food occasionally.

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        The food prices went up 20% so my logic is if I continue to tip the same % the waiters should still make more money. Increasing the food prices and also doubling the tip is just double dipping. My work isn’t paying me 20% more every year so I can’t be paying for everyone’s inflation.

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          14 hours ago

          Exactly, and the only thing they have is increasing the guilt factor. But they’re gonna learn when put up against a cliff and a little guilt trip I’m just gonna take the guilt.

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      16 hours ago

      All you are doing is punishing some poor server who has no control of the price. The owner who is actually fucking both you and the staff over is unaffected.

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        15 hours ago

        I’m punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?

        Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn’t about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.

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          Rent has gone up a lot more than 15% in the past decade. The whole system is rotten and needs to be abolished, but all the servers i know are absolutely struggling right now and depend on getting a 20% tip on each table. How would you feel if half your paychecks were randomly 25% less? Stop going to restaurants that expect a tip by all means, but if you are going somewhere that expects it, you should tip.

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            11 hours ago

            15 is the percent of the tip, not the percent increase in tip income over the last decade. If the tip percentage stays constant, then the tip amount rises in direct proportion to the food cost. The fair comparison is rent increase vs. restaurant food price increase. The data I found indicates rent’s gone up at an average of 4% per year in the last decade, and that restaurant food prices have risen by a similar amount - anywhere from 3-7% depending on the industry.

            Everyone is struggling. It is not unique to servers. And I do tip - just a reasonable 15%. If a server is struggling to get by on 15% tips, they should harass their boss and their senator, not their customers who are likely struggling as well.

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        Don’t pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant’s rules. Things would change pretty quickly.

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          11 hours ago

          So could you and your coworkers, but restaurant owners are the sleazist, scummiest, and greediest business owners in your community guaranteed. A restaurant in my town had the entire staff fired and the restaurant closed for a month because the owner would rather miss out on a month of business than pay a fair wage.