• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    Again, it is.

    Show me the legalisation where it is illegal to lie. How is it enforced? Who enforces it? Who arbatrates it?

    Freedom of speech is a moral right, and nothing more. If you start arresting people on perceived lies, that is a very dangerous slippery slope. I hope that the Donald doesn’t start arresting people who he believes is lying. Where will THAT stop?

    And, no, I’m not Asian, tho I don’t understand your asking.

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      Again, it is.

      Again, it isn’t. Read the fucking definition and educated yourself.

      ‘Freedom of speech is the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, by any means.’

      https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right

      https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

      And, no, I’m not Asian,

      Who was talking about Asians? I asked if you are a USian. Someone from USA. People from USA often misunderstand what freedom of speech is.

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        sigh

        Again it is.

        Neither of those links suggested that it was illegal to lie. Why not? Because it is fucking impossible to tie that rule into a working possibility. Go read your own links yourself, because it is obvious that you haven’t.

        It talks about limitations on hate speech, etc, but you can lie without hate speech.

        Freedom of speech is an ideal, and is tied to state control of speech. There are all kinds of limitations, including public safety and defamation, etc. But if I called you a Martian, obviously that is a lie. What happens? Does the free speech police lock me up?

        I’m not interested in personal attacks, by the way.

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          Again it is not.

          Neither of those links suggested that it was illegal to lie

          Which part of “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas” caused you trouble?

          So, are you a USian?

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            I’m not sure if you are trolling or not, because any plain English reading is obvious

            Your own quote, as set out below…

            “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas”

            That also applies to incorrect information ideas… or… lies. Or the truth… Or fantasy… Or anything in between…

            It doesn’t specify truth or otherwise. You are free to assume anything you care to - but it’s not in the actual text.

            As to your question, I have no clue about your insistence on me being whatever the thing is you keep repeating.

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              “the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas”

              That also applies to incorrect information ideas… or… lies.

              Are you a little bit slow?

              Which part of “information” or “ideas” cover lies?

              So, are you a USian as misunderstanding of free speach is common there?