Edit: I don’t drink alcohol, it’s just the best way to describe it. From comments I’ll be going on a low carb diet, thank you all.
Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.
My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.
I’m semi fit? I’m a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.
But would like… basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?
No. You need to adjust your diet and cut you caloric intake. Burning calories with exercise can give you some wiggle room but won’t do anything by itself. You could skip exercise entirely and still make progress with a good diet. I would suggest intermittent fasting. Everyone I know who’s had success dieting has done so with that method.
Yep. Weight is lost through diet, sport might help but can also make you hungry. The main benefit of exercise is better health through increased fitness.
People should compare how much calories exercising burnes per hour compared to the simple act of e.g. switching sugary drinks for water. Especially when you aren’t fit to begin with, meaning you won’t for example be able to run for hours each week.
Intermittent fasting definitely is a good method. But it varies for everyone. Imo it helps to start with changing what you groceries you buy. At least to me the further away from the plate you implement caloric reduction the easier it is.
Yeah that’s a good point and something I follow as well but didn’t think about earlier. If you don’t have it around you can’t eat it.
Going from doing nothing to something one day a week will have dramatic effects. But didn’t expect it to happen overnight or to have the same effect as going 3 or 4 times a week. Even just doing however many pushups you can once per day is a very good way to start condition yourself so you can handle and enjoy getting into a gym eventually. Sit ups are pretty trash. Six packs are made in the kitchen is a common adage for a reason. If you can’t work your core any other way I’d suggest planks over sit ups though. If you can, get a pull-up bar and power blocks. I would strongly recommend intending to get to a gym eventually though. From personal experience having a home gym was a bit of self sabotage
Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.
This probably because you don’t exercise. Exercise gives you energy and is an excellent anti depressant. Starting is always the hardest part but you’ll have more energy the rest of the day.
And more than anything, even what you’re doing, stick with it. Results take time. You’ll have days you think it’s doing nothing, you’ll miss days and think what’s the point of starting again, you’ll be disappointed with rate of progression and that’s always the biggest test.
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Anything helps, of course. Anything is so much better than nothing.
You are skinnyfat, yes? You don’t want to lose weight, you want to add lean mass. Weights are what do that best. Ideally you would want to lift heavy at least thrice a week if you are trying to shape up.
I can only lift once a week lately (lady, mid 50s) but do yoga 4x/week too. It’s maintaining me reasonably lean.
I have been where you are (single working parent) and what I did back then was wake up at 5am and run, because that was the only time of day nobody needed anything from me, and running is nearly free, just shoes. It sucked, but the days I ran I did feel better later on, it was worth it overall I think. If there is any way you can wake up a half hour earlier and do something vigorous, and then add weight training once a week I think you will get good improvement. Just maybe not as much mass as you ideally want.
130 lbs???
Beer belly?
Are you like 5’3"? Otherwise… What???
They might have visceral fat. it’s that hard belly. it’s from high carb, usually heavy drinkers. they could be skinny and look 4 or 5 months pregnant.
After other comments that might be it. Though I’ve been sober for over a decade now (never had a problem with drinking, just not my thing and lost friend and family to it so I don’t do it)
Also it’s not THAT big lmao.
It’s just the most common way ppl get it. If you eat lots of carbs, you can develop it. It’s not a drastic change, but 10 years of rice, bread, pasta, etc will catch up with you. Get checked out by a doc to rule out glands and hormones as well.
Definitely! It makes the most sense reading other replies. Thank you so much
They are 3’5’’
Like a true hobbit should be.
About to have elevensies actually.
Just as
GodEru intended.
I’m 5’7". Very high metabolism
Just commenting here so you see it,
130 pounds is pretty low for a man your height. Considering you’ve never really worked out, do some body weight workouts on YouTube, or but some dumbbells and do the same. Start with 20 pounds and but heavier as you need.
You lose weight with diet, not exercise, but that’s not what you need.
yeah i want to gain weight.
For reference 159 pounds would be where you start to cross into an ‘unhealthy’ BMI. However, while BMI is a good gauge for normal/sedintary people, it isn’t a great measure if you’re quite muscular. So I would try to stay under 160 unless you’ve been building miserable consistently for 1-2 years. And even then, if you are trying to optimize health, no need to go much over, even 160 being swole. However if your primary goal is not health but strength, you’ll need to be ‘obese’. Which is still healthier than being thin and out of shape, but not ‘optimal’ for long term health. The reason I say this is, everyone has an opinion on what’s best, but it really depends on what you’re trying to optimize for.
I was chronically skinny until I started smoking weed.
Is that why you’re such a dumb motherfucker? You should try another strain bro
Very normal, extremely hinged behaviour you’re demonstrating. Clearly not someone who gets over emotional and then makes poor decisions as a result.
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I smoked when I was 18/19. Got food poisoning once when I was smoking and now when I smell weed I get really nauseous lol. It’s super fun /s
Try Edibles!
I’m 5’3 and a hair under 130 and don’t have a beer gut. I don’t know how accurate is but my scale says I’m around 15-16% body fat. I lift weights but I can’t imagine I have more muscle mass than someone working as a mechanic and cycling. OPs numbers don’t add up to me either.
A beer belly, despite the name, is not exactly from beer. A beer belly isn’t specifically from the caloric spikes associated with heavy beer drinking (where a certain amount of alcohol for a certain inebriation is accompanied by a massive intake of simple carbs compared to liquor). It’s due in part by genetics. It’s called visceral fat, meaning it’s intertwined with your torso’s organs and muscles. The concern here, particularly when beer-bellied people are heavy enough to show notable fat between their knees, elbows, and faces, is there’s likely fat/cholestoral buildup in the circulatory system. The beer belly is a heart attack predictor (but please understand overall weight is part of that indicator, not just location of fat). Some people are prone to adding fat relatively evenly across their body while some are prone to a beer belly. This variance in fat distribution is why skin-pinch based BMI tests are not accurate for health (testing arm skin misses beer bellies) and why weight/height BMI charts aren’t either (can categorize distributed-fat risks a little too closely to beer bellied fat).
As for a solution, I support low-carb diets as you’ve indicated you’ll try. They come with risks and peculiarities. As someone with sizable forearms and calves but about 40lbs of beer belly, keto has worked great for weight loss. The consequence of not being careful with eating (counting carbs but not calories to types of fat) is my cholestoral is still high when I do keto stints.
As you consider a low carb diet, I want to point out some misconceptions for keto, since that’s mostly what you’ll find. Atkins and Weight Watchers are close to keto. Paleo has a similar major component by prohibiting simple processed grain (white flour) but isn’t the same otherwise. It’s not a high protein diet - eat a normal amount. It’s not a high fat diet - higher than the sugar industry-funded diet studies blaming fats will recommend, but still a normal amount. It does push you to choose better fats (nuts, avocado) rather than bad fats (bacon, butter) but fats fare a little better as a snack than proteins.
A major misconception is that fats make you fat and dietary cholestoral gives you coronary cholestoral. Both are indirectly related by directly false. Your belly is not stuffed with butter and cashew oil. It’s stuffed with human fat. Fat is a category, not a particular substance. Your body has to convert food into body fat. When you eat lots of sugars or simple carbs (which quickly turn into sugar in your stomach), your body is happy to waste energy converting the other food into body fat because you’re rapidly adding energy (sugar) to your blood. While sugar highs aren’t exactly real, sugar crashes absolutely are. It’s why a big pasta meal can leave you hungry in an hour. So what if you stop eating sugar and simple carbs? You can’t put walnuts in your bloodstream. Your body has to take that fat and convert it into body fat, and then that body fat gets converted into blood sugar. It’s a lengthy process that costs a lot of energy. It takes a week of dedication to make it work. When you get ketosis in full swing, your body will fuel itself with body fat as it takes time to convert dietary fat into body fat for later. Similarly for dietary cholestoral, you can’t take egg yolks and coat your arteries. Your personal cholestoral is produced by your body and is related more to total dietary calorie intake, dietary proportion of saturated fats, and genetic disposition for fat distribution.
Personally, a major benefit from keto is simply being able to confidently turn down all sugar and simple carbs. Beer, cake, cookies, sugary drinks, chips, bread, ice cream, and candy. I can easily convince myself that a little treat won’t hurt in a non-keto month but I have poor self control. A little becomes a lot. Part of that is because I’m “cleaning up” carby foods I abstained form during a keto month. But on keto? It’s an easy rule to follow since I’m as happy with cheddar as I am with ice cream. While I’ll come off for a few months to a year, the monthly keto cycles make my weight chart look like a slinky going down stairs.
Working out isn’t the primary path to losing weight, though it is of course a big part of staying healthy.
You burn quite a lot of calories in a day just from being alive. The additional calories you’d burn from a brisk 20 minute walk might about to one cookie. It’s far easier to just not eat the cookie.
That’s interesting. I’d guess my career keeps me “fairly” fit then? I average 8,000 steps per shift, and sometimes I do “reps” with ratches and other word nonsense. (Mechanic)
This is all good info though, I had 0 knowledge about anything when asking my original question. I didn’t know there were even multiple types of fat on your body.
More information if your interested: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyqKj7LwU2RulAjHczohbx5OyJQ8TaFM0&si=oOq3345O7yZEU1Hj
Doubtful. Exercise doesn’t contribute to weight loss nearly as much as people want to believe.
Your body gets used to exercise pretty quick.
If you’re not willing to significantly change your diet the exercise isn’t going to do squat.
exercise isn’t going to do squat
What if you do squats?
You’ll have sore legs
And build muscle in your legs, which will in turn burn more calories.
…but I like cookies.
OP’s stated goal is to lose weight and I’m just commenting on that basis. I like cookies too.
In real life I’m hardly a proponent of skipping life’s rich pleasures. But if weight loss is the goal, a little restraint is a hell of a lot more practical than a lot of exercise.
I’d happily walk a bubch if that means being able to eat more cookies
That’s perfectly okay as long as the ratio of 20 minutes per cookie is understood.
OP has a goal to lose weight though, not just stand still. And with the busy schedule they described, 40 minutes of exercise is hard to fit in, whereas not eating 2 cookies takes no time, and if anything puts time back in your day.
Alternative: Teach kids to cook, on the premise of being a good dad. THEN kids cook ALL the meals!
Yeah! I made your life easier!
Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym. Gym is for strength.
Source: I’m related to a competitive body builder.
Nope.
Diet. Not exercise.
Nope, diet and exercise.
dudes a mechanic im sure OP gets plenty of strength training from that. could use another cardio activity tho when mountain biking isnt an option
So to actually be helpful and answer op’s actual question.
Any physical activity will help to an extent.
What will help more for weight loss is counting calories and expending more than you consume.
But if you want to have any kind of actual muscle tone you need to do resistance training, wrenching alone isn’t enough.
If op is cool being skinny/ low muscle tone, then diet and cardio will do it. If op wants muscle tone then they should lift weights or do some resistance training like calisthenics.
I think you meant:
Yes
If you stop drinking beer and get a better diet.
Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?
Do you want a six pack or do you just want the belly bulge to go away?
Every little bit helps. Generally speaking if you can work a few push ups and sit ups into your daily routine it will likely have more effect than doing an hour long dedicated work out once a week.
Start out with 10 sit ups every morning right when you wake up and do 10 every night before you hop in bed. Add more as you get comfortable or do them periodically throughout the day.
I am 5’7"
I have always been really skinny and have had a really high metabolism
I cannot fathom being 130 pounds again. I’ve been over 200 for so long I can’t even imagine how much more nimble you must be lol.
Well hey congrats on the metabolism. I know it can be inconvenient how much you gotta eat n all that, but trust me it beats the alternative. My brother is a massive stoner and he eats like an elephant, but he’s always skinny as twig. I eat like half of what he eats and I’m a hefty slab of meat.
idk, ive gotten made fun of my whole life for being skinny. this also prevents me from gaining muscle mass you know. like…if want to buy a watch, i have to get the smallest watch possible for my wrists. and im not too nimble anymore. almost 40 so my joints are all breaking haha.
Maybe it’s time to start smoking some pot. Jk jk.
Don’t tell me 40 is when the joints start breaking. That’s right around the corner for me.
Nah it’s a joke. I stay as physical as I can. My brother surfs and plays baseball hear round in Hawaii and he is ripped. I just mountain bike in the bin snow season here. Maybe I just need to find time to exercise or something. But my joints can’t take skateboarding anymore
Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?
I’m also stuck on this guy’s weight and him saying that it includes a beer belly. Not to be judgemental, it’s just fascinating to hear the details about different body types. I’m on the taller side and am just a few pounds shy of double OPs weight.
This guy sits up.
I had the class record for most sit ups in 60 seconds at one point in my life lol. I think it was 43. I probably couldn’t do 43 sit ups in an hour at this point in my life… I should probably start working out again lol
I think the conventional wisom is diet is more important than exercise in losing weight, although I think most people would recommend working out once a week regardless if you would lose weight or not, basically any working out would be positive if you aren’t at all, it couldn’t hurt to do sit ups and push ups and see where that takes you.
sorry for hijacking, i am also interested in the subject, commenting here to hopefully get some info. i’m 174cm / 84kg. i wear medium clothes, but my beer muscle shows up, it’s quite big. even through a sweater.
i don’t exercise (i work in it, from home mostly), but also, i barely eat. today i had 3 coffees (no sugar, little milk), some leftover stir fry (veggies, chicken, mie noodles) and an apple, and that’s common. i don’t eat sweets or junk food.
i cook almost every day, usually curries & rice, stir fry, pizza/pasta, soups and stews, but i rarely eat myself. i switch daily between chicken/pork/seafood/tofu/legumes for protein, but there’s always rice or pasta or bread.
i drink a couple beers in a week (on average), i drink very little water throughout the day, maybe half a liter.
i sleep very little too, about 5h on average (less during the week, more on weekends).
where should i start? what’s the most blatant issue on my list? i know, all, but… what would be the first?
You should go to your doctor so they’ll run some tests. It could be something medical and not just your diet and exercise. Plus you’ll get a baseline to compare later.
Write down what you actually eat in a day and look up roughly how many calories it is in total. You can search ‘chicken calories’ and there are websites that will tell you how many in say 100g of chicken breast or thigh. You can use those sites to look up calories for each food item. Sometimes we don’t realize how much we actually eat. Or It could be a gland or hormonal problem which again needs medical attention.
If you’re eating high carb, you can be building visceral fat. beer is just fermented bread. If you’ve been eating high carb, cut down to 100g of carbs per day or less. For me just cutting out the rice and making sure I had some sauce, salsa, etc to make sure the dish isn’t dry worked for me. I tried to stay closer to 50g of carbs per day, but unless you want to be a robot and eat the same dishes for 6 to 12 months, use it more as a guide line than a hard rule.
Since your lowering your carbs, you can raise your protein and fat to feel full. No rice, bread, pasta will make your plate looks sad and empty. Fill it with veggies. I always sautee my veggies.
As you lower your visceral fat, you’ll sleep better, which lowers your stress, which lowers your accumulation of visceral fat, which makes you sleep better, in a positive feed back loop which will give you energy and you can start taking walks. Which adds more positive feed back…
TL;DR go to your doc. Eat more protein and veg. very little rice, pasta, bread. Try it for a month and see if you feel better
i did have some blood tests back in december. everything was within parameters for someone my age & gender.
i’ll try the calories / carbs counting. based on how much i eat, i should be able to add it all up at the end of the day. i remember 10-15 years ago i dropped the sugar from my coffee and also stopped eating bread for a few weeks, and i dropped a few kg. i do eat veggies, it’s not just protein with rice. my kids love a salad with olive oil and lemon juice, and my stir fries and curries also have plenty of them. but noted!
thanks a lot for the tips!
My advice to OP up thread would work for you too! https://hackertalks.com/post/6445964/6589425
Get your insulin under control and most things will self correct.
oh wow, very informative, thank you! (solid, hard belly for me)
The most blatant issue is the low water intake and the low sleep. Increasing the sleep and the water will help dramatically.
thanks! i am trying to, i got a large refillable bottle, but “i can’t be bothered” to refill it when it’s empty, my hyper focus keeps me glued to my chair… if i’m thirsty, i just take another cold coffee sip… 🤦♂️
unironically, most guys I know with the same problem just go for the novelty oversized bottles. seems to suit them well, and in a pinch the aluminum ones make for a hell of a club :D
The most blatant issue is not exercising. You don’t have to do anything drastic but adding an evening walk to your routine and changing nothing else would be really beneficial for you. If you added a few hours of walking per week and dropped the beer completely that would definitely tip the scales in your favour and you would see the weight dropping.
I would expect those two changes would benefit your sleep too
thanks! i commute once or twice per week to the office, and that’s some train, some walking. i average 5k steps per day, but with 10k when I go to the office. yesterday i did just under 1k.
i did check in with a specialist regarding my sleeping issues. it’s… complicated, but i’m working on it, part medication, part cpap machine :)
You’ve gotten a lot of advice on here, but I don’t think I’ve seen this…are you able to “suck in your gut” if you try hard and it improves how it looks? If so, it might not even be visceral fat, but just poor muscle tone in your abdominal area. If this is it, then core strength exercises are the way to go. Practice sucking in that gut more and more until it becomes the default, and strengthen your abs and obliques.
I can suck it in, yes. And obviously it gets smaller the less bloated I am too (I’m lactose intolerant but live in WI and cheese is life)
Is there any chance that you have dysmorphia, not a gut? 130 at 5’7" for a guy sounds pretty thin, even if out of shape, and the description of your diet sounds like you are certainly eating to maintain only 130, not a metabolism thing. Husband is 5’9 and said he was skinny at 145, I am same height and was skinny at 125, like really very slender. So we are close to your height and think you probably want more lean mass not less fat.
I do stand by the previous advice, something vigorous in the morning and heavy weights as often as possible. There are a couple of things you have to prioritize so they will happen. Exercise is one of them. Besides the 5am runs, I have done 9pm gym sessions, 5:30 am jazzercise, find the time and don’t let go of it. Once it’s a habit you will feel better on a workout day than an off day.
But you may have to eat more, not less, and lift to get the result you want.
I am sure lol
Humans are horribly, miserably energy efficient.
Seriously we evolved as exhaustion predators: pick an animal and just keep walking after it until it drops, then eat it. That’s our whole schtick. We are the goddamn terminator.
Just being alive and breathing uses up about 1500-2000 calories a day.
An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that, which makes up for like a spoonful of peanut butter.
As such, you can’t practically lose weight via exercise alone. You need to bring calories-in down to less than calories-out.
The tricky part is doing it in a controlled and sustainable manner so you don’t just say fuck it and scarf down two whole pizzas for lunch in a week’s time because you’re hangry and don’t care any more.
An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that
An hour run burns like 600
At my weight (175 pounds) going 10k over an hour puts me at about this amount of calories. That’s 6.2 miles. I am in no way fit enough to be able to go that kind of distance, forget about the pace, which is sad to admit.
At a 15 minute mile, I would burn 120 calories/mile.
That’s not to say that you can’t burn significant calories exercising, it’s just that your average couch potato won’t be able to out of the gate. It’s far easier for me to reduce my intake by 120 calories/day than it jog a mile a day on average. Ideally you would do a bit of both.