Just a reminder to not let Lemmy be your echo chamber. Most people either don’t know about the shit we care about, or don’t care.
Unfortunately, it will probably get worse.
For those wondering how dumb the average American is…
"Among Republicans, 71% of respondents believe the country is trending positively under Trump, compared to 21% of Democrats and 31% of independents.
Respondents overwhelmingly named inflation as the top issue facing the country, with 41% of those surveyed saying it was the most pressing problem."
How’s that inflation going?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3d57zm9m0po
"US inflation increased by more than expected last month, as higher egg and energy prices helped to push up the cost of living for Americans.
Inflation rose to 3% in January, its highest rate for six months, and above the 2.9% expected by economists."
The only poll that maters is this November! So don’t forget to vote in (checks calendar) … dammit. Negative 3 months time.
More turkies prefer Christmas and believe they’ll never eat better again.
Polls from Gallup, Ipsos, CNN, and Quinnipiac show Trump’s approval rating between 45-47% while one from YouGov puts him exactly at 50%.
This poll:
Donald Trump’s favorability stands at 50%, with a net favorable of +7 points.
I do not believe this for a fucking second.
Why not?
The Trumpoids march in lockstep with each other, repeating the same, predictable, consistent lines.
Dems don’t. Dems have deep and very heated disagreements over issues that most Americans don’t care about, or care about but don’t understand, and are frustrated that the issue is complex and not solved by saying “I solve it”.
To an inattentive observer (ie most Americans), it looks like one side has all their ducks in a row and the other doesn’t.
Add in a dash of long-standing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and a very “Me me me” attitude towards foreign affairs, and you have the American electorate.
Why wouldn’t they believe this?
This is quite possibly the worst-designed and loaded poll I have ever seen
Here are some of the real, actual and totally-not-biased questions asked in this survey. There are no alternatives to these questions, these are the only ones asked about particular policy positions:
DJT08 Do you support or oppose each of these policies:
- Deporting immigrants who are here illegally and have committed crimes
- Undertaking a full—scale effort to find and eliminate fraud and waste in government expenditures
- Closing the border with added security and policies that discourage illegal crossings
- Banning men who have undergone operations and hormones to become women from girls sports
- Declaring that there are only two genders male and female in all government forms and programs
- Eliminating all preferences by race in the hiring and awarding of government contracts
- Freezing and re—evaluating all foreign aid expenditures and the department that handled them
- Placing reciprocal tariffs on countries that have tariffs on US goods
https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Feb2025_HHP_Crosstabs.pdf
Holy cow, that’s… that’s pathetic. Good grief.
Do you support the following policies:
- allowing the continued existence of the sun
Count it, that’s a Trump supporter.
Did they only poll my uncle?
A poll could just be a survey given to a skewed and biased crowd of people. Or it could be given to 10 people or otherwise a number that isn’t representative of the people overall population.
Polls don’t mean dick.
You can check the poll’s methodology, probably. It’s Harvard.
Did you actually read the article? Surveyed 2400+ people
Right and you think 2400 is representative of the entire population in what way???
You’ve never taken a statistics class before. It really shows smh.
Yeah, no they don’t.
Unfortunately, it will probably get worse.
History demonstrates that it’s very likely to get much worse. Too many humans refuse to ever admit they might be wrong. The problem is each time things get pushed to the limit, it affects more and more of the world at the same time. This may be one of the last - if not the last - times we get to go through this cycle and still manage to survive as a relatively civilized set of societies.
Alternative more accurate headline would be “Most Americans are really stupid and ignorant and actually believe the things Fox News (or worse) reports are even remotely truthful”.
Not just Fox News zombies.
But yes. Most Americans are really stupid and ignorant.
By design, too. They’ve been dismantling our education system for two generations, and it wasn’t that great to begin with.
The really sad thing is, I believe, even with the American education system being sabotaged by the right, we’re probably better educated now on average than at any point in the past.
The difference is that the right formed a new coalition in the 80s, and got new propaganda tools in the 90s (Fox and other right-wing misinformation outlets) and 2000s (online disinformation). Being slightly better educated isn’t enough to counter that.
And now it’s going to get fucked even harder.
In the Information Age, the poor and uneducated rapidly gained access to the rest of the world and its knowledge, yet couldn’t tell what was true.
Those in power regarded these new cohorts opportunistically, as fertile soil and pliable tools, but the most cynical considered them weapons and cultivated their fear.
In the chaos that ensued, we sought to curtail their influence by censure, but the cynical were happy to amplify their voice. We attempted remediation with facts, but the cynical knew they preferred lies. So the conflict was recast as a war over culture and values, a profitable diversion for many.
We always dismissed the most obvious solution, addressing their fears, because these mostly boiled down to simple economic insecurity, and solving that has little short-term profit potential for those who have the most.
Also, “mainstream” media is far (FAR) more critical and nitpicky about Democrats and blame everything on them. When they question Republicans the bar is usually “can you confirm that racism is bad?”.
Can you confirm that racism is bad?
“Well, you seeeee …”
Considering the majority of Americans now get their news from mainstream media which is all run by Trumpers now. I’m not sure what they expected. Propaganda of the likes Hitler and Stalin would have approved of.
Among Republicans, 71% of respondents believe the country is trending positively under Trump, compared to 21% of Democrats and 31% of independents.
The stance that “they are all just too stupid to know better” is counterproductive and needs to stop being used. If you are so intelligent why can’t you find persuasive relatable talking points that will inspire more voters to show up and vote for you? Maybe you are not as knowledgeable as you believe or we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Ah, so intelligence is measured in how many votes talking points get. I guess Trump’s bigly brain really is just very stably out-geniusing all of us.
No but it doesn’t take a genius to understand that none of the policies you support will be implemented if you cant win elections.
