And the US tax payer is going to have to foot the bill on it…Elon sucks goldfish dick
So? You subsidised him since forever.
Not a peep when he demanded to keep his factories open in full Covid times or plenty more scummy things.
Only when he became a Trumper he was no longer great papa Elon for half of you.What makes you think I wasn’t verbally critical of him? I was telling ppl that were praising him that he seemed to virtue signal and seemed shady back in 2017. I was told I was looking too much into it. But in retrospect…
OK I was generalising.
Nothing in your comment says you aren’t be one of those who simply don’t like him NOW.
Statistically more chance of that since all I saw for years was cringe papa elon, big brain Tony Stark bootlicking while it was indeed clear for anyone to see what a douche he was (not visibly fascist tho).
But Americans love their oligarch heroes.
Most people still think Bill Gates is a great philanthropist, while he is also an awful person with a more acceptable personality and image.
I don’t think Elon gives a fuck. He’s tricked everyone he needs to into giving him billions of dollars. He isn’t going to give any of it back. He’s laughed all the way to the bank.
I don’t think he has to care, but I think he might. SpaceX and Tesla are the only 2 brands he regularly promotes as he hopes people forget about all the other stolen, idiotic ideas that have failed.
He has mentioned many times in the past how “owning a Tesla is fiscally responsible”. Considering DOGE and falling Tesla sales… it’s only a matter of time until he sees if he can push Tesla as “The American Car” subsidised by tax payers and potentially cheaper then other brands (due to tariffs)… I don’t put it past him to try to take over all the transportation in the country. He’s stopped pretending he isn’t just a super villain a while ago, so going out of our way to ensure that the most “affordable” car is his and cripple the nation further by literally controlling the means of transportation.
Feel the same way. He basically has the US Treasury now, and can do whatever he wants with his DOGE, I doubt he cares about Tesla.
he doesn’t, the american people getting ass fucked in broad daylight
The only creatures that should buy a Tesla are from the fucking AfD.
Lol definitely won’t, they’re super anti-EV after all. I mean, they even want to get rid of all wind power plants. xD
Brings a tear of joy.
Good.
Say what you will about faceless corps, but toyota won’t send some jackass out a the public face to do sieg hail, and be the gleeful butcher of government programs.
You have to be nestel levels of horrific before it breaks out of the corporate bubble.
I seriously question the mental stability of Tesla shareholders. Why on Earth does that man still have a job?
I’m not even talking about this recent stuff, I’m talking about all the things he’s been doing for the last few years. It would get any normal person fired.
He has family members and toadies on the board
Music to my ears.
Well I don’t want to celebrate in advance, Model Y facelift just released, let’s hope this trend continues and doesn’t show a reversal.
the UK being the only growth market speaks volumes
Not really. The UK is very anti-Musk and very anti-Trump.
Ireland and the UK being the only ones to grow is likely due to the way Tesla delivers Right-Hand Drive cars - they deliver them as one large batch each quarter rather than constantly trickling them out like LHD cars.
If you look at UK and Irish sales figures across multiple months, they swing between being up and down, depending on when RHD shipments come. Overall Tesla is down (and the UK even before Musk’s recent actions bought far fewer Tesla cars than France or Germany)
Let’s get it to 90%. We can do it.
go big or go home : 100%
You can go to 110% if you burn enough tesla’s
If you buy a Tesla now, it says something about you as a person…
If you have the money to buy a Tesla I don’t think you’re someone who cares what people think one way or the other. You don’t need to care about public opinion with that kind of income.
What? A Model 3 starts at 42k (without the tax credit) or 299/mo for a lease. That’s below average for new cars in America, or significantly below average if you qualify for the tax credit. KBB says the average for a new car in December 2024 was nearly 50k.
And sure, not everyone can afford a new car, but very few Tesla buyers are “that kind of income” wealthy.
I bought a Tesla years ago before Elon completely removed the mask.
No way I’d buy one now, but I also don’t want to sell it early and lose a tonne of money.
The Tesla board should intervene and remove him, but they won’t because he’s stacked it with yes men like his brother.
I wish people would also boycott Zuckerberg‘s products and Peter thiel‘s PayPal.
Aren’t there alternatives to Paypal, like Wise and Revolut?
And wero from European paiement initiative that regroup all major french and german bank.
Except in Germany you can chose from like three whole banks that participate
No no way more
Far as I know it’s more of a send money from phone to phone thing for now. My bank supports it, but it’s only an option in the app which I don’t use.
It is especially sad since it was meant to replace giropay, which actually was more like Paypal than wero is.
Let’s hope it is just a matter of time.It will be open later to shop and eshop. Probably around 2026. I saw a élog post about their roadmap.
Google Pay. Wise and Revolut are money wallet + transfer tools.
Do you need one?
I recently deleted my PayPal account and use a virtual credit card instead.
So far no issues with paying. In the rare case that credit card is not available you can always pay without account in PayPal via credit card.
Wat? I have one I’m the one that suggested it 💀
You went back to the banking industry and you report this event as a good thing?
You are telling me you are paying via PayPal without involving the banking industry?
I have the choice to either tell PayPal and my bank what I’m buying or just my bank. I chose the latter.
A virtual credit card? Is that something your bank offers, or how would one go about getting it?
The reason I originally got PayPal is because many sites don’t accept debet cards so I often had no way to pay at all.
It’s a credit or debit card where you can change the number at any time. Prevents shady online shops from loosing your credit card details. Revolut and N26 offer it for example.
Of course, the shop still has to accept credit/debit cards or you have to go though PayPal as guest.
I see, thanks!
Often enough the credit card payment still is done through PayPal, though
Germany tries to make one every two years. The newest one is called Wero/kwitt
Ah, I should have read down further. I’ll look those up.
In Europe, sepa transfers are free and instant transfers will be mandatory free from October.
To pay in e-commerce, revolut has unlimited one-use cards, no need for PayPal.
What’s a sepa transfer
Single Euro Payments Area it’s basically just your regular bank transfer in most of europe.
Is there a Canadian version of paypal that works the same way? I was searching but couldn’t find one and ever since AI came around my business shrank to almost nothing. Also, other than having an old nearly defunct facebook account, what $ would I be unwittingly giving to Zuckerberg? Serious and naïve question.
Agreed, though I don’t think Thiel is involved in Paypal anymore.
Yes, you are right, not anymore, I don’t trust it though as it was founded by not only Peter Thiel but also Elon Musk.
PayPal blocks accounts that are politically controversial, such as some alternative media outlets, cryptocurrency platforms, or activists. Also Whistleblower organizations like WikiLeaks have been blocked and their funds frozen.
For these reasons I find a boycott completely justified.
PayPal was not founded by Musk
Please have a look at the listed founders of PayPal: Paypal Wikipedia
Please actually read the article
The company was originally established by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek in December 1998 as Fieldlink. Later it was renamed Confinity,[9] a company which developed security software for hand-held devices.[10] When it had no success with that business model, it switched its focus to a digital wallet.[11] The first version of the PayPal electronic payments system was launched in 1999.[12]
In March 2000, Confinity merged with X.com, an online financial services company founded in March 1999 by Elon Musk, Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho.
Musk founded a company that merged with the company that invented PayPal.
As Wikipedia lists him as a founder i think it’s ok for me to call him that as well. But of course, you can insist on the loooooong explanation that he founded a company that merged with another company and the merged one finally became Paypal.
I actively boycott Zuckerberg’s offerings bar WhatsApp coz the bastard bought it out from under us. Fuck him, fuck Meta
Elon truly is a genius businessman. Letting him run the government is clearly a great idea.
It’s been said more than once, that Musk isn’t an asset to a company but a liability. Tesla didn’t succeed because of Musk but despite him.
I mean he’s become a whole lot richer. Tesla is just a casualty. Why he hasn’t been ousted from the board or sued by investors, I don’t understand.
Lemmy, this is the 7th day in a row you’ve shown “Tesla sales down in Europe” news in Top.
You can filter it out if you want. Whenever I read it I get warm fuzzies. It helps me cope.
Doesn’t make my comment not true.
And I don’t filter or block anything or anyone. Rawdogging Lemmy, the way God intended.
So you just like to complain then?
There’s no point in blocking everything. I’m interested in what’s happening with Trump and the US, with Tesla, the occasional Linux news, but when my feed is 90% “Why Linux is actually good”, “Musk/Trump bad”, “Tesla shares in EU down again” for the fifth time, it gets annoying. Blocking stuff is too crude a tool.
Might be his only joy in life. Let him be, as long as he’s not too rude about it.
Let us enjoy our schadenfreude!!
My instance has the same attitude. But of course its easier when being small with hundreds of users rather than thousands.
Feel free to post other good news. I’ll be happy to upvote.
We have this, crap copied from twitter or crap copied from reddit. Take your pick. :)
To be serious for a minute, I do wish there was more discussions and not just circle jerking. Its funny how everyone left the big platforms but still discusses the exact same things.
linux linux foss linux
They are on track to be worth less than BYD, the two will likely cross over quite soon.
Beautiful news.
