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At some point, getting Nintendo would be a career moment and I honestly believe a good move for both companies. It’s just taking a long time for Nintendo to see that their future exists off of their own hardware. A long time… :-)

Email chain between Phil Spencer, Chris Capossela, and Takeshi Numoto discussing the potentially hostile purchase of Nintendo, ZeniMax, WB Games, and TikTok

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    Those Wii U ports had the benefit of being ports, which is a situation that will never happen again.

    True, but they still had to develop these games initially for WiiU, only for them to bomb there. And the WiiU was an eighth gen console.

    Since basically no one played the Wii U, it was more like a machine gun fire of games for the Switch that already had the hardest part done.

    If the rumours of backwards compatibility are to be believed, the Switch 2 could just straight up sell Switch games with Switch 2 enhancement patches. Something very similar was shown to developers with BoTW running at 60fps at 4k on Switch 2, and such a patch is known to exist for Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.

    It won’t have the same newness factor of the WiiU ports, but it will allow Nintendo’s evergreen titles to keep that status until the Switch 2 iteration.

    Also, unlike any time in history except for the lifespan of the PSP, there are real alternative options for handheld gaming now as we head into this new Switch successor,

    You mean the Steam Deck and clones? I don’t mean to burst your bubble, but the least janky of these units has you scouring ProtonDB to check a games compatibility with the unit, and community notes on what to enter into the advanced run commands section or on rare occasions, even what Linux commands to run.

    And that’s the least janky option. The Steam Deck clones are worse, as at least the SD had the good grace to use an operating system designed for that specific hardware and form factor. Yeah. Switch 2 is pretty safe.

    but it will have an impact on the buyer who just wants to play Hades or Doom in bed or on a road trip and now has that many fewer reasons to buy Nintendo’s console over a more open platform.

    You honestly think they’re going to put up with any kind of SD/clone jank?

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      It won’t have the same newness factor of the WiiU ports

      This is exactly my point though. Backwards compatibility is an expectation now, but if you didn’t have a Wii U, like most people didn’t, it makes the Switch feel like it’s got twice as many original games as it actually had, and they won’t be able to repeat that.

      You mean the Steam Deck and clones? I don’t mean to burst your bubble, but the least janky of these units has you scouring ProtonDB to check a games compatibility with the unit, and community notes on what to enter into the advanced run commands section or on rare occasions, even what Linux commands to run.

      I’ve sat just about the most technically unsavvy people I know in front of a Steam Deck and told them to stick to verified games, and it’s been as smooth sailing as a Switch is; which is to say that neither is perfect, and the way they’re imperfect is a little different between them. But again, PCs have been steadily growing in gaming market share for over a decade. PCs got easier, consoles became more complicated, and maybe some percentage of the market was also willing to learn what they needed to to further close that gap just like how all of our parents eventually learned how to use the internet and cell phones. I’m certainly not capable of measuring the effect of each of those things on that trend, but this is the way we’re trending.

      The Switch 2 is certainly safe. In particular, the Switch is a device made for children, which helps it reach a demographic that the Steam Deck isn’t targeting and may never target. I’m not so sure the next Switch is going to do as well as this one has though. And in each subsequent generation, I think they’ll head in the same direction as Microsoft and Sony or do something absolutely insane instead of responding to what the market is actually asking for.

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        I’ve sat just about the most technically unsavvy people I know in front of a Steam Deck and told them to stick to verified games,

        That’s the problem. You have to tell people to stick to a currently small selection of possible games on the system to ensure a console-like experience. Or, you can just pick up a Switch 2 and not have to worry about any of that shit.

        I’m a Linux gamer, so I know how powerful and impressive Proton is. But a console like experience, it is not. Many of my Steam games need advanced commands just to run acceptably.

        Steam Decks hit their real potential in the hands of someone who is not afraid to fuck around.

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          Verified games are not a small selection anymore. They’re not the entire breadth of Steam, but there are about as many verified games as there are Switch games. Double that if you’re including the certified playable games. No Switch tax, no compromised version of the game, no subscription to play online. I get a lot more value out of mine than I do a Switch, and the most I’ve fucked around on it is installing EmuDeck.