Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., told a crowd of thousands at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday that the U.S. was facing a moment of “extraordinary danger” as he criticized the political, economic and social policies of Donald Trump.
Sanders, who also dropped by the music festival Coachella over the weekend, has been criss-crossing the U.S. to speak out against the new Republican administration.
“We are living in a moment of extraordinary danger,” he said, “and how we respond to this moment will not only impact our lives but will impact the lives of our kids and future generations.”
Trans and disabled sounds like 2 checkmarks on the maga checklist.
It’s a shame that you couldn’t see that Gaza is the line. You decided genocide against innocent people wasn’t a disqualifier and now you cry about your own impending doom while mocking your would be allies.
LMAO. You reap what you sow, fool.
Both MAGA and these so-called “allies” want me dead at the end of the day. We’re just expected to starve to death when Amerikkka collapses or the people finally rise up.
I know full well how horrific what Israel is doing is. But there was no anti-genocide option on the ballot in 2024. There was no way that Jill Stein or whoever was going to get enough votes to win. Hell, most of Stein’s supporters I talked to their best case scenario was getting to 5% for debate access and federal funds next go round. Any that I confronted about Gaza not having 4 years just shrugged and said some variation of “better than voting for a genocide” How exactly? Because they didn’t have to sacrifice their ideological purity?
Also, Jill Stein is just as corrupted by Russian money as all the Republican Party leadership are. She just exists to steal Dem votes.
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There is a picture of her eating with Putin in Russia. She has been documented with plenty of evidence of her going back and forth from there several times. Fuck her.
This is from a DNC hitpiece.
"The Senate Intelligence Committee investigated Stein after she was photographed in 2015 sitting at a table with Putin at a tenth anniversary celebration for Russia Today, the state-run propaganda network (since renamed just “RT”).
Call noted that Stein “was cleared by the Senate Intelligence Committee after their investigation of multiple individuals’ supposed ties to Russia.”
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/useful-idiot-for-putin-russia-dnc-jill-stein-green-party
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Purely a coincidence she was seated at a table with Vladimir Putin? Who else is allowed to get within 10 feet of him?
where’s the money, Lebowski
At the table.
Antigenocide was absolutely on the ballot, but like the others you tell yourself the stories of impossibility that the duopoly wants you to believe.
So you chose the people that promised Roe v Wade would become law for 50+ years and everytime they have the ability to do so they shrug their shoulders and say “Meh.”
Or maybe the same allies who allow the parliamentarian to arbitrarily shut down the will of the people.
Or maybe it’s the same people who get you to “rally against the oligarchy” that will tell you to fall in line for the next corporate democrat who is actually a republican with a mask on.
Harris was the perfect candidate to illustrate the willing ineptitude of the democrats, and people looked at her like she was going to be some kind of savior.
Change doesn’t happen by doing the same thing over and over again. The only difference Harris really offered from Trump was facade and rhetoric. The democrats had 4 years to do something to help people and motivate votes their way. They instead chose genocide. All the money they sent could have been used to help people like you and I, but they chose death.
They are not allies, and you will you never achieve any meaningful change or progress with them holding the reigns. They have proven this over and over again.
Some historical context for you.
Just in case you don’t read or comprehend the article here is a TL;DR
Third party is dead in the US without changes to the voting process.
And just to be more clear: You, and anyone else who voted third party essentially voted for Trump. And if you didn’t vote you voted for Trump as well.
the mental gymnastics inside one clause are incredible
If you don’t understand how either not voting or voting third party equated to voting for Trump then I guess enjoy riding your moral high horse of superiority.
trump only gets to count votes for him. any other vote is a vote against him, and a non vote is a non vote
See the thing is that a candidate only needs a plurality of cast votes. So every vote that doesn’t get cast makes that plurality easier to achieve. If there are 100 people that can vote and all of them do you need 51 for a majority. If 10 of them don’t vote at all and there’s only 90 left you now only need 46 for that same majority. If another 10 of them vote for some third party that person now only needs 41 votes to have the largest plurality. Every person that doesn’t vote lowers the threshold for victory.
It’s tempting to think that this benefits both remaining candidates equally since both can benefit from that lowered margin. But in reality it gets skewed based on who stayed home/voted third party and who didn’t. This is the spoiler effect.
so you know non votes don’t get counted for Trump
Wow it’s a good things democrats took those 4 years to make everyone’s lives better. They really motivated all those people who didn’t vote for them to support them.
I also like how they are championing changes to the electoral process that would help more candidates get on the ballot. Oh wait they aren’t doing any of that!
You can blame anyone you want, but when democrats know they have just enough votes to lose without having to concede anything at all they are going to keep playing the lesser of two evils best hits and convince you to blame everyone else.
They will keep voting for war, tax cuts for the rich, and increases to their own benefits and salaries. As long as they do it with an anti-Trump pro-LGBTQ sticker their constituents will blame those who found no resonance within a hollow corporate party.
Yes, we already covered Democrats Bad. I agree. I hate them with a passion. Doesn’t change that in a national electoral sense they are the only viable party at this moment to enact any kind of positive change. They are not and should never be the only option. But all people who talk like you do ever seem to offer as a solution is the “Glorious Revolution™” that hundreds of thousands if not millions of vulnerable people WILL die in because they never think about how those people are going to survive when food or medicine supply lines get disputed by fighting for the most fucking basic of examples.
They engage in this rhetoric because it’s Magical Thinking that absolves them of having to do something they feel is icky and stains their ideological purity. It’ll all be fixed when the Oppressed finally throw off their chains and eat the rich or whatever.
Revolution starts in the mind.
You “disqualified” everyone for not doing enough and left Palestine to the group who would be fine if all Arabic peoples were wiped out.
But I’m sure Palestinians are weeping thankfully about how you and yours voted.
Sounds less like caring about Palestinian innocents and more about performative righteousness and your personal image.
If Trump and maga appreciate your actions (and boy did they), it puts you on their side, imo.
Unfortunately it seems that your brain doesn’t work, sir.
You seem to forget that the majority of the recent genocide of Palestinians was so far overseen by a democratic president.
Did you think voting for those same people would make it stop?
Does yours?
Try seeing outside of black and white absolutes.
Are you unable to see that this administration is WORSE?
Are you incapable of understanding why people who support Palestine might vote for the lesser evil of two guaranteed options?
You and others like you scream about how we don’t care about genocide, but I’m pretty sure you know the truth and you’re just trying to convince yourself that you did the right thing.
Yes this administration is worse. Cool. We agree. It’s the disastrous policies of democrats that got us here. We know what Maga is. They know what Maga is. They had the project 2025 plans months in advance. What did they give you? An senile candidate who was out of touch with reality and completely controlled by his handlers and then Kamala the coconut cop and a bunch of vibez. You had 0 participation in the democratic process of the democratic party.
Project 2025 is going down right now and they are out here doing publicity stunts. These people are not fighting for you now as the constitution is being shred - when will they ever???
Lol I don’t need to convince myself of anything. I vote my conscience. If nearly all of the country was ok with ignoring the genocide they are sponsoring - well I guess I live in a country of selfish selfish people who need a rude awakening. I don’t know what to tell you.
The whole country ignored 1 million dead Iraqi. This is the natural progression of a society that steps on another to maintain the status quo. Eventually you are going to get stepped on.
If someone told you that you had to sacrifice your entire family in order to “save democracy” would you do it?
Of course not - so why is sacrificing the Palestinians a-ok with all of you people who are now trembling in fear at what’s coming? Why should anyone expect empathy when they weren’t willing to give it?
When analyzing how a situation came to be do you only look to deflect and blame other people or are you going to take some time to self-reflect and question how your behavior or way of thinking may have led us to this point? And what do you do to change it?
I don’t disagree about the Democrats.
We DO disagree that it was worth allowing the administration that is objectively worse for the Palestinians to take charge to make a point about the Democrats.
You’re still missing it.
While saving democracy is certainly part of avoiding Trump, you’re still trying to spin this into something it’s not.
The relevant point here is that with Democrats, they’d probably still be in a load of trouble while the Dems played politics until they figured out just how much of their base supports Palestine.
With the Republicans… they cheer for the genocide. Hell, if they pull enough authority with this grab, they’ll probably send troops to help the IDF finish the job.
People like me voted for the chance to avoid the latter. I’d like to think people like you voted for hope.
But when people who voted for neither major party yell about how Democrat voters are “fInE wItH gEnOcIdE”, when it was a calculated choice in support of Palestine, it starts to feel like virtue signaling.
I’m not missing anything. Maybe you forgot recent history?
To your point, I don’t think republicans are lock step in this issue either. I think there is a significant break between those who support and those who don’t - look at Candace Owens for example. There is also a large contingent who support 0 foreign aid even to the murderers.
I do believe however that thinking anything would move the democrats is naive. They have been telling us for years to shut up and fall in line, and they have done it multiple times to people advocating for Palestine - Bernie did it just this week.
The democrats armed and allowed this all to happen on their watch. They could have shut it down and then Trump wouldn’t be able to continue anything. But they let it happen and continue to happen. This the crux of my position.
They could have stopped it at anytime - anytime a hospital was bombed, anytime a video surfaced of a child being blown away or sniped in the head, anytime one of the bombs Josh Shapiro signed was dropped on a community of destroyed people living in tents, anytime Biden illegally bypassed congress to send more weapons, but they didn’t. This is what people need to realize. They could have stopped it but they didn’t - even with all of the overwhelming evidence that what is/was taking place is evil.
So why would they stop if they won? It’s cognitive dissonance.
You still have faith in democrats while I am looking back at the evidence over my lifetime that says you are better off writing a letter to Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny than getting the democrats to do anything meaningful.
Trolling with anonymous input on a basis of moral superiority helps no one and makes you appear to be an agent sowing division. Just FYI, contributing nothing to the conversation, other than telling others they should be ashamed is bot behaviour.
Shame is a tool for personal growth especially for someone who wants empathy from others when unwilling to show it to the people who need it the most.
The main contribution to the conversation is that democrats haven’t done anything to help the non-wealthy when they had power so why would you keep voting for them?
That’s insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Even if MAGA is disillusioned and votes for the things that will ultimately hurt themselves, their issues have been taken up and approached by the people they elected.
How come Trump is all of a sudden willing to yield this power for the people who voted for him, but when democrats get into power they are powerless?
Democrats should be doing everything they can to help people - especially right now in this constitutional crisis, but where are they? Sheepherding people out of their anger and frustration into a place where they are going to tell people to once again vote for the lesser of two evils. That game is old.
They don’t have any concrete plan on what to do even though they lamented for months about project 2025. It was all laid out before them months in advance, and they still have ZERO plan (or even a hint of an idea) on how to combat it. So they have folded and started doing speaking about nothing tours.
They are just the good cops in this dynamic - and guess what - the good cop and the bad cop are buddies.
I’m not telling you I know how to solve the problem, but I am telling you I know exactly how to not solve the problem.
To continue making excuses for and putting faith in a party that doesn’t give you anything but pleasantries and plattitudes is just going to enable things getting worse - slowly when democrats are in power and rapidly when republicans hold the office.
Ps. I am old enough to remember when Genocide Joe said he was only going to be a one term president and pass the reigns to the next generation, but then he gave the middle finger to everyone and sabotaged the entire 2024 election? You know who enabled him to go through with that disastrous policy decision?
The entire DNC.
I also remember that wonderful primary season of 2024 where the democrats saw through a democratic process where the people chose the successor to Biden. Oh wait that didn’t actually happen because the DNC gave everyone the middle finger again.
The enemy of progress is division. Holding idealised views of how political parties should be is disingenuous virtue signalling and disregards how politics work(s)ed in America with AIPAC, corporate lobbying and a two party system of First Past The Post elections. You are right to want further change, but right now this divisive rhetoric only serves the ruling class. Democrats are always targeted for their failings and support for the party is often split because of it, while republicans disregard all criticism and stay united through their hatred and obfuscation of the truth. You can be right without also serving the purposes of your enemy. If they prevail, when they finally crush every last one of us because there was no united opposition. It does not matter how correct you are my friend, being right won’t matter. “I told you so” means nothing in Hell.
This isn’t virtue signaling or moral high grounding.
It’s pointing out facts. The fact is the leaders of the democratic party are the most divisive of all, claiming to espouse progressive policies yet always blaming the most ardent supporters of those policies when they lose elections.
Why are people seeking refuge in a party that silences the voices of the people most in need. This is the whole point. There will be no appeal to their power. They enjoy the divide because it keeps them in power.
Bernie Sanders just had someone thrown out and arrested for raising a “Free Palestine” flag at his latest rally while the whole auditorium was chanting “Free Palestine.”
The false claims of anti-semitism/national security that Trump is using to deport people started underneath the democrats with their support.
Because the other option is the destruction of Western intellectualism, death camps, the genocide of the working class and White Supremacy. It’s quite simple really.
This is an example of being obtuse.
One party wants you to shut up so the other can run wild over you.
The duopoly ladies and gentlemen.
Take note, this is why America need massive education reform and funding for a comprehensive federal department of education. Reading comprehension is suffering.
Yes, and you have been the shining example. Thank you for your cooperation.