Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
Yea it’s less than wonderful. You’ll have some places that are beautiful and flourishing right next to a place that’s barely standing. The paint, building materials, etc gets divvied out based on bribes to the govt.
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So, socialism doesn’t exist according to your definition since nowhere on this planet workers control shit.
Ask former Soviet workers, Chinese workers, Cuban workers, North Korean workers and Vietnamese workers how much control on production they have.
Yes you are correct in that real socialism was never implemented.
Socialism is when workers control the means of production and the surplus generated from their work.
When the government controls these things, like with communism, it’s state capitalism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
Grow up, but read a book or two first.
I’ve been to China. I’ve been to Cuba. Have you?
I’ve been to cuba, most I talked to described it as a censorship filled shithole, but that’s over 10 years ago now anyway.
Yea it’s less than wonderful. You’ll have some places that are beautiful and flourishing right next to a place that’s barely standing. The paint, building materials, etc gets divvied out based on bribes to the govt.
Cuba pretty much sucks.