Peoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.
But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.
It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.
They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.
On the other hand, the only way to get good training data is to generate data indistinguishable from the real-world scenario and then have humans mark it up the way you want the system to do it. You might as well have the data actually be from the real world and recoup some of the costs with sales.
From an engineering perspective they didn’t want to do this since it’s not just about AI tasks. If you go watch videos of it they have camera arrays and special shelf layouts and all sorts of stuff.
Not to mention the engineers probably wanted to be able to test it privately and without disrupting an actual store and community.
Looked it up and according to their claims (which we don’t have much other info on) they said that 70% needed manual review. And I’m saying AI here but really that’s the buzzword, there was a whole engineered system behind this that was automated to some degree. So yeah it wasn’t AI but it also wasn’t just people either.
Peoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.
But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.
It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.
They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.
Feels like it should be illegal to mislead people like that.
On the other hand, the only way to get good training data is to generate data indistinguishable from the real-world scenario and then have humans mark it up the way you want the system to do it. You might as well have the data actually be from the real world and recoup some of the costs with sales.
Sure, but you still shouldn’t be selling the technology as actually working, instead of developing.
Amazon bought whole foods a while back. What would have stopped them from just collecting the data in their own stores, and then developed the tech?
Hint: shareholder value.
I won’t pretend that Amazon avoided that due to ethical concerns, but doing that would have almost the exact same ethical concerns.
All they had to do was run the tech alongside traditional cashiers. Make it known on entry, and your fine. No ethical concerns.
But what they did was sell tech they didnt have to shareholders to pump up the stock.
The lying is unacceptable, but either they hire temporary workers to obsolete themselves, or they force tenured people to obsolete themselves.
From an engineering perspective they didn’t want to do this since it’s not just about AI tasks. If you go watch videos of it they have camera arrays and special shelf layouts and all sorts of stuff.
Not to mention the engineers probably wanted to be able to test it privately and without disrupting an actual store and community.
So it’s what I would’ve done as well frankly
What are you talking about?
It was never AI. It was always cheap remote people working in foreign countries. But you would take that, and sell it as AI like they did?
Looked it up and according to their claims (which we don’t have much other info on) they said that 70% needed manual review. And I’m saying AI here but really that’s the buzzword, there was a whole engineered system behind this that was automated to some degree. So yeah it wasn’t AI but it also wasn’t just people either.