He’s deliberately placed the Nimitz, an obsolete and comparatively low-tech vessel, in reach of Iranian attack submarines. That will be the new Gulf of Tonkin. There will be a draft, and the use of tactical nuclear weapons is inevitable.
Bro a single Nimitz has more ciws than most navies and you know a literal air force, they’re old they are by no means obsolete countries would literally kill to take one whole.
US carrier groups have proven vulnerable to diesel-electric subs every time they come up to the nordics for an exercise. You can’t hit a sub with CIWS, only torpedoes and that’s if you know where they are.
Nordic navies have scored consistent simulated hits against US carrier groups from subs.
Their main defence against this is to stay the fuck away and use jets from afar. Which, if what is said above is true, they are not doing.
Let’s hear again how many diesel subs iran has and how many destroyers we have? How many in a battle group? Oh for that matter how many subs are in a battle group?
Nords have and have had an incredibly powerful navy for most of their history, Iran not so much.
They can’t strike willy nilly, you’d be baffled at how close Russians do fly bys.
Iran has at least 25 diesel subs in the specific area, as it is a state secret how many of their midget subs specifically designed for duty in the straits have been commissioned. 20 are verified.
The US has ~80 destroyers around the world.
But the subs are most likely laying mines right now, none of them have been sunk or even found as far as we know. Of course, demining is possible, but it’s long and expensive.
Add to that that US brass was saying they would lose a sea battle against Iran in the straits 20 years ago. Iran has been commissioning 2-4 subs per year since.
And Iran does not want to fight US battle groups, they want to prevent cargo traffic. The US just lost the same battle off Yemen a few months ago, against a country with no navy.
Dunno where you’re getting that the best guess and most common is around 20 total subs. Most of which we likely know the location of.
73 active with another ~60 in the ghost fleets but depending on the cvbg two destroyers, two sub hunters, a unknown number of attack subs that are essentially always in the area talking enemy subs and another 2 attack subs that are know known to trail cvbgs when they enter contested areas.
We don’t need to enter anywhere Iran mines, last time someone tried this dumb shit 48 hours later the third or 5th largest Navy in the world was sunk.
No one said they’re entering the straits.
Correct, that’s not the argument you made though. You said they were obsolete, they are not. Most navies have exactly zero carriers and even the ones we decommission would be a boone for any Navy that could support it which honestly is not that many navies.
Earlier today and yesterday, people in this community were saying that Iran doesn’t have nukes, isn’t making nukes, can’t make nukes, and that republicans are just making it up.
Are we fucking cooked? Is this going to start a series of retaliatory strikes that brings about the use of nukes? This shit fucking sucks.
Yes.
He’s deliberately placed the Nimitz, an obsolete and comparatively low-tech vessel, in reach of Iranian attack submarines. That will be the new Gulf of Tonkin. There will be a draft, and the use of tactical nuclear weapons is inevitable.
Bro a single Nimitz has more ciws than most navies and you know a literal air force, they’re old they are by no means obsolete countries would literally kill to take one whole.
US carrier groups have proven vulnerable to diesel-electric subs every time they come up to the nordics for an exercise. You can’t hit a sub with CIWS, only torpedoes and that’s if you know where they are.
Nordic navies have scored consistent simulated hits against US carrier groups from subs.
Their main defence against this is to stay the fuck away and use jets from afar. Which, if what is said above is true, they are not doing.
Let’s hear again how many diesel subs iran has and how many destroyers we have? How many in a battle group? Oh for that matter how many subs are in a battle group?
Nords have and have had an incredibly powerful navy for most of their history, Iran not so much.
They can’t strike willy nilly, you’d be baffled at how close Russians do fly bys.
Iran has at least 25 diesel subs in the specific area, as it is a state secret how many of their midget subs specifically designed for duty in the straits have been commissioned. 20 are verified.
The US has ~80 destroyers around the world.
But the subs are most likely laying mines right now, none of them have been sunk or even found as far as we know. Of course, demining is possible, but it’s long and expensive.
Add to that that US brass was saying they would lose a sea battle against Iran in the straits 20 years ago. Iran has been commissioning 2-4 subs per year since.
And Iran does not want to fight US battle groups, they want to prevent cargo traffic. The US just lost the same battle off Yemen a few months ago, against a country with no navy.
Dunno where you’re getting that the best guess and most common is around 20 total subs. Most of which we likely know the location of.
73 active with another ~60 in the ghost fleets but depending on the cvbg two destroyers, two sub hunters, a unknown number of attack subs that are essentially always in the area talking enemy subs and another 2 attack subs that are know known to trail cvbgs when they enter contested areas.
We don’t need to enter anywhere Iran mines, last time someone tried this dumb shit 48 hours later the third or 5th largest Navy in the world was sunk.
No one said they’re entering the straits.
Correct, that’s not the argument you made though. You said they were obsolete, they are not. Most navies have exactly zero carriers and even the ones we decommission would be a boone for any Navy that could support it which honestly is not that many navies.
So has that happened yet? The blockade is already on
Earlier today and yesterday, people in this community were saying that Iran doesn’t have nukes, isn’t making nukes, can’t make nukes, and that republicans are just making it up.