• Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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    20 hours ago

    I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites

    At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their opium den smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs

    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.

      I’ve seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you’d go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you’d nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.

      Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.

      Nowadays? It’s paradise I tell you.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        16 hours ago

        The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.

        It wasn’t until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.