The revised package now heads back to the House, where Republican leaders hope to approve it and send it to Trump before a self-imposed July 4 deadline. But it faces hurdles.
Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine, but not possible. And even if there were, most of the population does not understand democracy needs paper ballots counted properly, with recounts. So any revolution will ultimately be more of the same later.
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy, and I am grateful things as less bad than I imaged. At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
I can only sigh and hope to keep out of political prison for a few more years ; but realistically will probably be arrested this or next year trying to protect neighbors .
Yep. We had a solid 4 years for USA to figure some shit. Global pandemic to nail it home too. We didn’t.
Republicans have been at this for decades. First round of Trump should have been enough. It wasn’t. Now Republicans have full control.
You can only warn people for so many years. We are past that point. Everyone that refused to listen are now going to get what their wilful ignorance wanted.
The Democratic Party shares equal blame. I think my more recent posts the last few years criticizes them without mentioning the Republicans because when trying reform sinners one does not try to save the devil too.
But all my issues with them are moot if most of the country uses private companies to decide primaries and elections without oversight. And when most of the population have no issues with any of that.
But like a little child I still hoped, and offered advice and tried to educate. Now, the time for such things are done.
I’m pretty sure the democrats will win by a landslide next year, and there may even be a democratic president, but it will not change facts on the ground. It’s going to be a bad next few decades
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy
I think the U.S. is too large with too many cultural differences by region to maintain a democracy in the long run. Ideally we would balkanize, with the blue states going their own way and forming their own democracies. Northeast blue state democracy. West coast blue state democracy.
I have no interest in continuing to try to maintain a democracy with low IQ fascist domestic terrorists anymore. It clearly isn’t working.
While I can easily imagine the USA splitting up, the fascists are in every community though.
I like the quote from Sontag
10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.
/ Susan Sontag
The problem with avoiding the fascists is that they are always everywhere at a low percentage; and a good society requires the equally low percentage of decent persons to convince the vast majority of people to not go rogue.
This requires good governance in local areas; and that is a finicky thing indeed. If the USA splits up, who knows how that goes? I would not put money on any region being bad or good in two generations
At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
Sorry to be a downer, but ICE’s funding is now high enough that one of the few plausible explanations for it is that they plan to create concentration camps of immigrants (and, hey, well we have all this money and space, maybe just all other undesirables too…?)
For me, this was inevitable so can only shrug.
Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine, but not possible. And even if there were, most of the population does not understand democracy needs paper ballots counted properly, with recounts. So any revolution will ultimately be more of the same later.
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy, and I am grateful things as less bad than I imaged. At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
I can only sigh and hope to keep out of political prison for a few more years ; but realistically will probably be arrested this or next year trying to protect neighbors .
Yep. We had a solid 4 years for USA to figure some shit. Global pandemic to nail it home too. We didn’t.
Republicans have been at this for decades. First round of Trump should have been enough. It wasn’t. Now Republicans have full control.
You can only warn people for so many years. We are past that point. Everyone that refused to listen are now going to get what their wilful ignorance wanted.
The Democratic Party shares equal blame. I think my more recent posts the last few years criticizes them without mentioning the Republicans because when trying reform sinners one does not try to save the devil too.
But all my issues with them are moot if most of the country uses private companies to decide primaries and elections without oversight. And when most of the population have no issues with any of that.
But like a little child I still hoped, and offered advice and tried to educate. Now, the time for such things are done.
I’m pretty sure the democrats will win by a landslide next year, and there may even be a democratic president, but it will not change facts on the ground. It’s going to be a bad next few decades
Stop. Just stop.
It’s old. It’s stupid. It’s profoundly ignorant.
Just stop.
Oh, I have stopped, as of today I am no longer engaging this debate. Hopefully this takes and I don’t spend energy while I figure out what to do
Tell us when you figure it out, because we’re all equally fucked.
That is so true
I think the U.S. is too large with too many cultural differences by region to maintain a democracy in the long run. Ideally we would balkanize, with the blue states going their own way and forming their own democracies. Northeast blue state democracy. West coast blue state democracy.
I have no interest in continuing to try to maintain a democracy with low IQ fascist domestic terrorists anymore. It clearly isn’t working.
While I can easily imagine the USA splitting up, the fascists are in every community though.
I like the quote from Sontag
The problem with avoiding the fascists is that they are always everywhere at a low percentage; and a good society requires the equally low percentage of decent persons to convince the vast majority of people to not go rogue.
This requires good governance in local areas; and that is a finicky thing indeed. If the USA splits up, who knows how that goes? I would not put money on any region being bad or good in two generations
Sorry to be a downer, but ICE’s funding is now high enough that one of the few plausible explanations for it is that they plan to create concentration camps of immigrants (and, hey, well we have all this money and space, maybe just all other undesirables too…?)
Those are unofficial death camps. Maybe.
I put care and effort into the word ‘official’.
You want the US to be invaded by invaded by an even bigger piece of shit country for us to have to fend off?
We do not have a Russia next door, which started the war to suppress the same movement in many Russian cities.
Siberia does not count
That’s why they’ll never expect an invasion from Greenland