• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    I don’t think people need to give up comfort. At least not to any reasonable level. We need to make it so that we are doing things efficiently. Passive housing using geothermal/solar/wind and such. People able to afford to live where they can be carless.

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      The comfortable will never rebel. No one is going to give you those things and we can’t build them without dismantling the current system. You’re going to have to get supremely uncomfortable in order to give others the possibility of having those things at some indeterminate time in the future or face a dystopian future so bleak that it will make The Hunger Games seem like a fun vacation. Either way, comfort is rapidly fading from the picture.

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        Thats not people giving up comfort, that is them losing it. Nobody will rebel due to self sacrifice. Many act to rebel from loss of things that don’t directly cause discomfort but they have the cognitive ability to see the long term consequences that will come of it.

    • brendansimms@lemmy.world
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      there are very rich and powerful people who spend all of their ‘working’ time actively fighting against those things. They (clearly) would sooner support the construction of the fourth reich in america than give up profit streams like energy/housing/automotive.