And from the glowing reviews it’s clear that

  1. W11 doesn’t actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial

  2. For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won’t even notice that’s something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD

  3. Amazon doesn’t care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

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    I keep repeating this, my i5 750 (2009 pc), oc at 3.6ghz can do any fucking thing most people do with their computer. With a 1060 gpu, It plays like 90% of the games , I’ve made pro audio and video projects on it, even a small vr game.

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      Yeah no, calling cap on that.

      It’ll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.

      It’ll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.

      I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it’s twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You’re delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025

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        Yeah, same. That was my first major PC build and it hit its threshold. I used the hell out of it for nearly 6 years, but no way it’s playing new games with a 1060.

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        Fr. I have an OCd 2500k and it was a bottleneck many years ago. Pre Sandy CPUs… Not a chance it’s not a bottleneck.

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      20 hours ago

      Serious question, why haven’t you upgraded to an i7 yet? They’d have to be super cheap at this point, right?

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        18 hours ago

        I mean, it’s not my work PC anymore, but this one has been my main entertainment system for years now. I really don’t need to upgrade and create e-waste to gain a little bit of performance. I haven’t even installed Linux on it yet, still on win 10, but that will make it even faster. It’s my firm belief that like 80% of the people would be fine with 15+ years old computers.

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          18 hours ago

          My newest computer is 5 years old. I see no reason to upgrade anything.

          I use my 11 year old laptop with Linux mint on it as well. I maxed out the RAM on it and swapped in a Sata SSD, it boots in under 40 seconds and does everything I need it to do. It’s one of those cheap underpowered Celeron processors as well.

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            Id still be using my clamshell iBook if it worked and supported a modern-ish browser.

            My eeePC only got sidelined because 4gb of ram is now too little for kubuntu releases. (I was going to install Debian, but after 30 min on it’s SLOW SSD it failed and I haven’t tried again) And I had issues with the screen resolution being too low for the smallest settings window before.

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      I used to have that CPU, but found it absolutely dying on it’s arse for VR Chat (which is notoriously badly optimised). I got a i5-8400 instead, which is about twice as fast for single threaded work (which is still the main bottleneck for most games). Your overclock would take it a decent amount of the way there, but most people aren’t going to do that, and it was getting a bit iffy even when I replaced it. Runs hot as well, I expect.

      Since then they’ve got about twice as fast again. You don’t have to spend a lot on them to get that either. A Ryzen 9600X will have me set for the next 15 years (assuming they don’t ditch x86 CPUs altogether). AMD being competitive again has down wonders for performance boosts. Motherboards seem a lot more expensive these days though.

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        It’s only the AM5 mobos, you can still get very cheap AM4 mobos, even with PBO (performance boost overdrive, huuuuge performance boost for me at least). The new AM5 mobos are like 200 bucks WTF? Aaaand they have shit audio 😭

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      I dont think that GPU could handle any game in the past 5-10 years though. So 90% of games doesn’t seem right.

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        18 hours ago

        1060 is probably more powerful than the steam deck and that things run almost everything. You don’t have to play at 4k/ultra.

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t play online games, but otherwise I have a library of 200+ games and they all work fine so far. At 1080p, sometimes I put it at 720p to get higher fps.

        Lately, I’ve been playing It takes 2, Little Nightmare 2, Fallout 4, Hades, Sable, Doom 2016 among others, no issues.

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          In all fairness, those are all very well optimized, compared to today’s complete and utter bullsh*t… A 1060 is Dldefinitely not E-waste though!!