It’s not about Ukraine , that’s just the playing field. The west did a coup to use Ukraine to move position east, there would not have been a war at all if that was not the case. People smarter than me have been warning about the coming war in Ukraine since the 90s
I’m aware, but either way this war doesn’t seem to revolutionary in anyway, it’s just two opposing capitalist countries fighting. I’m not really rooting for either side. I don’t know if either side has the Ukrainians people’s best interest at heart. The Russian bourgeoise was just robbing Ukraine and now the American bourgeoise are just using them as cannon fodder.
Fuck all those people.
Of course it’s not and I get your point , Russia sucks. However critical support against the western imperialism is wanted. if west gets their way they will take over. It’s like a turf war all over the planet. Would you want a world were US imperialism and fascism stands unopposed? I wouldn’t. I’ve rather have a balance of terror than just terror. Even if I don’t like the players of this game which they so psychoticly enjoy playing with us. Besides that there is the fact that one side has a more expansional agenda than the other one.
The thing is this isn’t an anti imperialist war. Russia doesn’t have some revolutionary army that is going to free any one from imperialism. It’s literally just two bourgeoise armies fighting. So I don’t support either side and neither should any one who calls themselves a Leninist ( I’m not a Leninist.) Any one who makes any excuse for either side is just a propagandist, plain and simple, just because some people can on this website can see through American bullshit doesn’t mean they’re not a propagandist. The frag your CO memes all apply to the Russian side as much as the Ukrainian side. Bourgeoise war is bourgeoise war, there is no winner for a normal person here. They’re just waiting to see which jack boot will stamp on their face.
If you really think Putins Russia is anti fascist just because they’re defunding their turf so they can keep looting Ukraine then idk what to tell you other than you’re a war propagandist. Also how will this war help any leftist movement? It won’t. Both the Ukrainians and Russians hate leftists. The communist party in Russia is essentially just controlled opposition and when people formed Soviet’s in eastern Ukraine Putin had them killed. Supporting either side in this war does nothing for me, the average Russian or the average Ukrainian and by doing that all you’re doing is helping one shitty government kill the citizens of another .
It’s not about Ukraine , that’s just the playing field. The west did a coup to use Ukraine to move position east, there would not have been a war at all if that was not the case. People smarter than me have been warning about the coming war in Ukraine since the 90s
I’m aware, but either way this war doesn’t seem to revolutionary in anyway, it’s just two opposing capitalist countries fighting. I’m not really rooting for either side. I don’t know if either side has the Ukrainians people’s best interest at heart. The Russian bourgeoise was just robbing Ukraine and now the American bourgeoise are just using them as cannon fodder. Fuck all those people.
Of course it’s not and I get your point , Russia sucks. However critical support against the western imperialism is wanted. if west gets their way they will take over. It’s like a turf war all over the planet. Would you want a world were US imperialism and fascism stands unopposed? I wouldn’t. I’ve rather have a balance of terror than just terror. Even if I don’t like the players of this game which they so psychoticly enjoy playing with us. Besides that there is the fact that one side has a more expansional agenda than the other one.
The thing is this isn’t an anti imperialist war. Russia doesn’t have some revolutionary army that is going to free any one from imperialism. It’s literally just two bourgeoise armies fighting. So I don’t support either side and neither should any one who calls themselves a Leninist ( I’m not a Leninist.) Any one who makes any excuse for either side is just a propagandist, plain and simple, just because some people can on this website can see through American bullshit doesn’t mean they’re not a propagandist. The frag your CO memes all apply to the Russian side as much as the Ukrainian side. Bourgeoise war is bourgeoise war, there is no winner for a normal person here. They’re just waiting to see which jack boot will stamp on their face.
If you really think Putins Russia is anti fascist just because they’re defunding their turf so they can keep looting Ukraine then idk what to tell you other than you’re a war propagandist. Also how will this war help any leftist movement? It won’t. Both the Ukrainians and Russians hate leftists. The communist party in Russia is essentially just controlled opposition and when people formed Soviet’s in eastern Ukraine Putin had them killed. Supporting either side in this war does nothing for me, the average Russian or the average Ukrainian and by doing that all you’re doing is helping one shitty government kill the citizens of another .