• Yeather@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    It’s better to think of a Priest like a Lawyer. Attorney-Client privilege means the Lawyer cannot divulge information to police, same with a Priest during confessions.

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      10 days ago

      A priest isn’t there to defend you in court room. THAT’S why lawyers have client privilege, not to protect rapists, but to be able to mount a legal defense.

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        10 days ago

        A priest can save you from damnation and interprets divine law like how a lawyer can save you from prison and interprets mortal law.

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          9 days ago

          Well, we have evidence that a lawyer can do what you claim, and none that a priest can…

          Which is a non-issue anyways. Iron age mythology (Not bronze aged, as I was corrected) has no place in the laws governing a secular society.

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      12 days ago

      Even a lawyer has to report child sexual abuse, and in places that they don’t it is still a may report instead of have to. They are also dealing with laws while priests are not dealing with laws. In almost all states anyone who deals with or takes care of a child are mandated reporters. Basically yes, lawyers are also mandated reporters in most states.

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        12 days ago

        https://dcyf.wa.gov/safety/mandated-reporter

        Washington’s list of mandatory reporters, lawyer is not on there.

        https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/attorney-client_privilege

        Attorney client privilege only faulters when you disclose you plan to continue committing a crime or are planning on commiting one. Or in some cases where a protective order or custody order is violated and only the lawyer and client are privileged to the child’s whereabouts. https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914c52eadd7b049347d2545

        What you tell a lawyer is confidential bar some rare exceptions. If you attain a lawyer and tell them you have commited the crime of child abuse they do not have to report unless you divulge a plan to continue abusing children. When you attain a priest during confession, you also have this confidentiality.

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          10 days ago

          When you attain a priest during confession, you also have this confidentiality.

          Only to protect rapists from the law, though.

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          10 days ago

          If you hire a defense lawyer and confess to them you killed someone, that is protected by attorney client privilege. If you hire a lawyer and confess your intention to kill someone, they are complicit if they don’t report it to the authorities, just like anyone else.

          The duties of a priest have nothing in common with a lawyer under the legal system.