I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.
To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.
My hope is that someone awesome sees that even someone as bad as newsom can get support by just fighting back a little and then starts fighting back. Newsom wouldn’t be getting the attention he is if the dems were so spineless to begin with.
Yes. The way he is handling this is actually good, and how the democrats should have been handling their political battles as soon and they realized trump was gaining motion.
But the democrats are a combination of lazy and stupid and corrupt that they didn’t care enough or were too incompetent to stop literal fascism so they just didn’t do it. Nice to see someone kind of stepping up for a change.
I’m very lukewarm on Newsom, and sincerely hope he’s never a Democrat candidate for president. That said, griping about his shortcomings when he’s on the cusp of doing the right thing is counterproductive.
Whats counterproductive is trying to do pragmatism with the democrats when that has consistently failed in horrific ways for the last four decades. “Griping about his shortcomings” dude, that makes it sound like this guy hasn’t done monsterous failings. Shortcomings is such a watered down way to describe this guy.
Calm down. Appealing across the board gives you access to potential new voters. This has nothing to do with Cheney… You want millions of voters, not one vote.
The last election was a clusterfuck loss due to many father’s. Saying it was just down to Liz Cheney is ridiculous. You had a bumbling old President. A late switcheroo. A black female candidate. Not to mention a racist ex-president who has a knack for swooping up the lazy, the crazy and the disaffected. Cheney didn’t lose the election for the Dems. People just staying at home did.
It’s a bad thing because they’re doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.
This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn’t working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn’t go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.
I’m hoping that, with the dismal polling for Democrats, the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.
Maybe I’ll kick the Hopium habit if/when we’re no longer conspicuously moving toward a dictatorship.
I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.
To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.
My hope is that someone awesome sees that even someone as bad as newsom can get support by just fighting back a little and then starts fighting back. Newsom wouldn’t be getting the attention he is if the dems were so spineless to begin with.
Yes. The way he is handling this is actually good, and how the democrats should have been handling their political battles as soon and they realized trump was gaining motion.
But the democrats are a combination of lazy and stupid and corrupt that they didn’t care enough or were too incompetent to stop literal fascism so they just didn’t do it. Nice to see someone kind of stepping up for a change.
I’m very lukewarm on Newsom, and sincerely hope he’s never a Democrat candidate for president. That said, griping about his shortcomings when he’s on the cusp of doing the right thing is counterproductive.
Whats counterproductive is trying to do pragmatism with the democrats when that has consistently failed in horrific ways for the last four decades. “Griping about his shortcomings” dude, that makes it sound like this guy hasn’t done monsterous failings. Shortcomings is such a watered down way to describe this guy.
Toward? Um…
They’re recognizing they need to cuddle up to TPUSA and the AIPAC lobby. Hence Newsom’s choice of podcast guests.
Don’t know how to tell you this, but the guy making the rounds on conservative podcasts probably isn’t who you want leading the Democrats
I didn’t say I want him to lead the democrats, I said I want him to gerrymander California.
There is no point in preaching to the already locked-in. You need to find converts in enemy territory.
Jesus Christ you people will chase Republicans if you have to bring the Cheneys on the stage to do it.
Oh wait!
They already did that, lost, and now their bots keep insisting on doing the same thing and expecting different results!
Calm down. Appealing across the board gives you access to potential new voters. This has nothing to do with Cheney… You want millions of voters, not one vote.
The last election was a clusterfuck loss due to many father’s. Saying it was just down to Liz Cheney is ridiculous. You had a bumbling old President. A late switcheroo. A black female candidate. Not to mention a racist ex-president who has a knack for swooping up the lazy, the crazy and the disaffected. Cheney didn’t lose the election for the Dems. People just staying at home did.
Why is that a bad thing? Should Democrats stay in their echo chamber and Republicans stay in theirs?
It’s a bad thing because they’re doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.
This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn’t working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn’t go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.