• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    Walk me through how Russia’s army taking territory from Ukraine isn’t invading. Explain, as you would to a child.

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      If Trump started bombing California, and California called for secession and asked Mexico for aid, and Mexico did so, would Mexico be invading?

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        Yes.

        It would also be an invasion if America managed to get rid of The Idiot as a blatantly corrupt foreign-aligned fascist, and then Canada decided they’d quite like Maine.

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          If your roommate starts threatening you with a knife and the cops come in after you called them to defuse the situation are the cops doing a home invasion?

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            Analogies tend to have something do with a topic at hand.

            Russia invaded Ukraine. Is bickering about motives not good enough? You gotta pretend their army didn’t amass on the border, attempt to seize the seat of government, and claim permanent ownership of a shitload of territory?

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              What about the civil war that west ukrainian nazis waged on east ukraine with tacit support of the ukrainian government that led to the secession of the donbas republics and them asking for russian support to defuse the situation, which led to the amassal of troops at the border? We gotta pretend that didn’t happen?

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              Russia recognized the independence of LPR and DPR and then responded to their request for help. Incidentally, this is directly modeled on the precedent NATO set in Yugoslavia.