• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      15 hours ago

      Should Ukraine fight to the last Ukrainian? The war is increasingly unpopular, and it doesn’t appear that there’s an ace up Ukraine’s sleeve to turn the tides. The longer the war rages on, the more Ukrainians and Russians die, and the worse Ukraine’s bargaining power becomes.

      If you were in charge of Ukraine right now, what would you do?

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        8 hours ago

        When Russia first attacked, everyone thought they would roll over Ukraine in days or weeks… Are you sure a drawn out war isn’t worse for Russia then it is for Ukraine? Every day Ukraine is showing the world that Russia can’t push them around, that’s important when dealing with bullies.

        They should fight until they decide not to fight, I don’t understand why anyone who isn’t Ukrainian thinks they get a say in that decision.

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          7 hours ago

          Nobody thought Russia would win in days or weeks, the western framing has been that that was the plan but it failed, but the Russian framing has not been that way. Further, yes, a drawn out war is absolutely worse for Ukraine, Ukraine has been steadily losing ground, the war is increasingly unpopular, and Russia is outproducing NATO in millitary equipment.

          Showing brave defiance doesn’t matter at all if it costs you far more lives for an increasingly unpopular war, at some point you have to circle around to reality and understand that Russia isn’t going to stop until the 4 oblasts are theirs, Kiev stops oppressing ethnic Russians, and Ukraine promises NATO neutrality.

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        8 hours ago

        Look to my allies for help. Ukraine isn’t in the wrong for defending itself. Russia is the bad guy here.