If you’re considering Graphene, I would recommend checking out Calyx instead. They support basically the same devices. Except one isn’t led by a dickhole.
Responding to attacks is not being high-conflict personality, that’s reversing the roles. People who are harassed and attacked are allowed to defend themselves. Having been part of the GrapheneOS community for almost 2 years, in which Micay is often present, I have to say he is not looking for conflict at all. His messages are often direct, without any bullshit wrapped around it, but he’s a nice and patient person.
Note that you can install grapheneos on a second-hand (used) phone or refurbished phone perfectly fine, just make sure it’s not carrier locked. You can verify the integrity of the OS and firmware via the verfied boot hash and the auditor app. That way you don’t really have to trust the seller especially if you buy from a random seller you contact yourself, who is unlikely to target you.
Responding to attacks is not being high-conflict personality, that’s reversing the roles. People who are harassed and attacked are allowed to defend themselves.
That’s mostly true, but misses the point.
Point of order; a ‘high conflict personality’ is not a bad thing on its own. If we didn’t have people with them, open source would not exist as a community. Linus is infamous for his ‘high conflict personality’, although he has for sure cut back on it in recent years. People who get mad and fight back are a blessing and a requirement for humanity to succeed.
Everyone chooses to fight, de-escalate, or to not engage at all. The people who choose to fight, often and regularly, don’t have to be wrong to have a ‘high conflict personality’. They just have to semi-constantly choose to fight instead of the other options.
I looked at the only available evidence (which is from the posted article, because all of the github conversations were deleted) and it’s pretty clear that, of the available options, Micay did not choose to de-escalate. You could argue that deleting the feature request counted as an attempt at disengaging from the issue, but it pretty quickly changed from that to fighting about it.
I get that this is a pretty important issue to you tranquil, I see it in all the comments you’ve made here. But ThorrJo wasn’t making a moral accusation, but casual observation. Micay gets into drama, real or otherwise, enough to show up on a semi-regular basis.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been a regular user of grapheneos for the past year and I genuinely love what has been created. The work done on this software is incredibly important in this day and age, and I’m incredibly grateful to the people who made it.
the GrapheneOS guy is clearly a high-conflict personality, but I’m still considering it for whenever I have sufficient $ to get a new-to-me phone.
If you’re considering Graphene, I would recommend checking out Calyx instead. They support basically the same devices. Except one isn’t led by a dickhole.
Responding to attacks is not being high-conflict personality, that’s reversing the roles. People who are harassed and attacked are allowed to defend themselves. Having been part of the GrapheneOS community for almost 2 years, in which Micay is often present, I have to say he is not looking for conflict at all. His messages are often direct, without any bullshit wrapped around it, but he’s a nice and patient person. Note that you can install grapheneos on a second-hand (used) phone or refurbished phone perfectly fine, just make sure it’s not carrier locked. You can verify the integrity of the OS and firmware via the verfied boot hash and the auditor app. That way you don’t really have to trust the seller especially if you buy from a random seller you contact yourself, who is unlikely to target you.
That’s mostly true, but misses the point.
Point of order; a ‘high conflict personality’ is not a bad thing on its own. If we didn’t have people with them, open source would not exist as a community. Linus is infamous for his ‘high conflict personality’, although he has for sure cut back on it in recent years. People who get mad and fight back are a blessing and a requirement for humanity to succeed.
Everyone chooses to fight, de-escalate, or to not engage at all. The people who choose to fight, often and regularly, don’t have to be wrong to have a ‘high conflict personality’. They just have to semi-constantly choose to fight instead of the other options.
I looked at the only available evidence (which is from the posted article, because all of the github conversations were deleted) and it’s pretty clear that, of the available options, Micay did not choose to de-escalate. You could argue that deleting the feature request counted as an attempt at disengaging from the issue, but it pretty quickly changed from that to fighting about it.
I get that this is a pretty important issue to you tranquil, I see it in all the comments you’ve made here. But ThorrJo wasn’t making a moral accusation, but casual observation. Micay gets into drama, real or otherwise, enough to show up on a semi-regular basis.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been a regular user of grapheneos for the past year and I genuinely love what has been created. The work done on this software is incredibly important in this day and age, and I’m incredibly grateful to the people who made it.