Is he on trial for inspiring other people to commit violent acts? Is that one of the charges he is facing? No, He is on trial for murder. How other people respond to that is not his responsibility.
Additionally, he is still on trial. He has not been found guilty. So they are saying that something he may or may not have done is responsible for other people potentially doing something that they haven’t yet done.
What a bunch of irrelevant hogwash.
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I would argue our shitty healthcare/corporate greed that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths and suffering is inspiring people to commit violent acts. Why else would someone do them?
Edit - missed a word
Millions of deaths. Hundreds of thousands of deaths a year. They are monsters that deserve what they get.
Did they drop the terrorism charges or did I just misunderstand the clamor about it? Seems like their argument would be related to those charges, not that it’s a good argument.
This is such BS. There’s actually been a disturbing LACK of copy cats, and dead CEO’s.
There have been at least 2 more CEO killings recently. But mainstream media is deliberately not reporting on it, because it’d likely lead to even more. Don’t forget everything is owned and managed by the same groups of people.
Counterpoint - greedy bastard CEOs killing your relatives by denying healthcare they’ve been paying premiums for for years is inspiring violence.
One death is a tragedy
One million, a profitable quarter
~ Jamie Diamon
Or a car.
Its an inspirational story.
One to aspire to. Who doesn’t want to be a hero?
And make no mistake, slaying a dragon is a heroic act. Universally recognized as such by everyone except other dragons.
That’s a lie.
It’s the disparity in wealth and rigged system that’s inspiring people towards violence.
America’s national motto is WORK WILL SET YOU FREE.
UnitedHealthcare CEO ̶’̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶e̶g̶e̶d̶ ̶k̶i̶l̶l̶e̶r̶ ̶L̶u̶i̶g̶i̶ ̶M̶a̶n̶g̶i̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶ inspiring others toward violence, prosecutors say
Fixed that for you
Yes, the violence here is the mass murder that comes from the purposefully cruel rejection of coverage for lifesaving medical care by UnitedHealthcare, and yes I guess somebody was shot with a gun too amid all the violence but I struggle even to perceive a single death among such mass suffering and mass death.
Umm. It’s not Luigi inspiring violence.
Hey, greedy motherfuckers… you ever stop to think WHY people want to see you murdered in the street?
These stupid mother fuckers think we should be grateful for the opportunity to toil for them…
has inspired others to embrace violence over reasoned debate
It is definitely not the murder of whatever ceo that fueled the will to go over “reasoned debate”. It’s the absolute lack of effects from “reasoned debate” for the majority of populations.
People: I need X to survive/not suffer/live a dignified life.
Corporation: Literally fuck off and die.Also corporation: Why do they hate us? :((((
United’s violence against their customers denying necessary, doctor advised medical care they paid premiums for is inspiring towards more violence, let’s not start the wheel halfway already turned
Where’s the proof?
I think a couple pretty damning pieces of evidence are:
- United claim denial rate of 32% in 2023 doubles the industry average rate of 16%:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/12/05/data/unitedhealthcare-claim-denial-rates/
- Dr attempting to call United to get a necessary procedure claim approved, getting handed off to a Dr who will not identify themselves by name nor NPI not familiar with current state of care denied:
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1919096796082803021
United used an algorithm to automate claim denials which boosted profits and killed people as a result. They murdered people for profit. And everyone but Brian the CEO got away with it.
Billionaires do more to inspire attacks against billionaires than anyone else, we should start by attacking that problem first.
Luigi doesn’t inspire to kill anyone
CEOs inspire people to kill CEOs
Well let’s talk about that in regards to Kyle rittenhouse, the January 6th rioters, Daniel penny, Vance boelter and the endless stream of far right terrorists we are forced to tolerate. Luigi is a man of the people a real life hero in a soul crushing dystopian hell hole.
I’m late to this party but I always like to chip in on Luigi threads:
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That other people were inspired to kill CEOs by this killing is irrelevant. I mean, it’s debatable that it’s true at all. But even if it were, that feels relevant only insofar as this is a jury trial - and thats not a bug of a jury trial, it’s a feature. Public sentiment doesn’t really get a say outside the 12 folks in the box.
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There is a serious chain of evidence issue with the supposed murder weapon. Body cams are turned off, (improper) when Luigis bag is taken from him, and according to filings, that bag wasn’t searched until back at a local station over 30 minutes later. That strikes people as suspect as it’s outside normal procedure for cops, who would normally search a bag right away during the arrest. The cops were alone with that bag for 30 minutes prior to “finding” the gun. Most unbelievable, they expect us to believe that someone capable of this killing, and producing an inherently disposable 3D printed “ghost gun”, then failed to ditch it and carried it across state lines? He couldn’t find a garbage can to pitch it in over 24 hours later?
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People say Luigi couldn’t be the adjuster because of the height/build difference between him and the security footage of Brian Thompsons shooting. I find this less convincing as the footage is extremely unclear. But I will say at the very least, nothing in that footage has been brought to my attention that supports Luigi being the shooter. No shill pundit or sweaty former prosecutor desperate for their 15 minutes has got on TV and said “See, here’s what the prosecution is going to point to to build their case.”
It would seem to me, that Luigi is a troubled young rich kid who wrote some critical, if meandering, things about his frustrations with US Healthcare, got accused by a McDonalds employee who was financially incentivized to see a suspect, had evidence planted by some cops hoping to catch this rising folk hero before anyone else got any ideas, and then got railroaded by the most corrupt DOJ since the Gilded Age.
If I’m on the jury, I haven’t seen ANYTHING that directly ties him to this shooting that wasn’t badly compromised by the cops. This is almost surely an acquittal or a hung jury.
My theory is that they know this, so what they will do is pull a Casey Anthony, whose case shared a similar situation of an extremely poor investigation that was almost certainly going to lead to an acquittal. They will slow walk the investigation and the trial for as long as legally possible, putting weeks and months between motions, and keep him in prison for as long as possible, because that will be the only time he will serve. Casey Anthony was found Not Guilty, but she still served over three years in prison.
Luigi may be ultimately released, but he will still sit in jail for several years of his life.
yea, his trial doesnt start until early next year, they are hoping people would forget luigi by then, and the distraction of the midterms, so they can do what they want with the courts.
on a side note, this is the reason people dont want to do jury duty
I support the movement behind Mangione but come on, he clearly murdered that guy.
This movement and support should be focused on electing politicians to change laws. Killing CEOs really will not fix anything. Killing one roach does not mean you got rid of cockroaches.
Why is it so clear to you? Because he’s the one paraded in front of the populace? Politicians are not on your side, stop believing you can vote your way out of anything. Voting got you all the way here, how’s that been going for ya?
CEOs aren’t cockroaches. They’re rational human beings. They can see what happens to their peers and adjust their behavior accordingly. If not there’s a perfectly manageable number of them to make an example of until the rest get the message. Politicians are in their pocket so we can’t rely on that angle to change anything.
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Provide examples then.
Right!? I kind of was hoping the wave would start… Clearly it hasn’t.
