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    Yes anytime the new deal is brought up the detractors say that minorities were discriminated against, so, nothing they did counts. Defective logic, nothing anyone did ever would count using that logic.

    Give me one historical example where you could not find injustice to negate using an example from? Just one. Nothing now would count. Nothing in us history.

    Using that argument is telling of where your head is at, perhaps actively stymying resistance, to accelerate the decline mistakenly believing something better would replace it. That is the more charitable take on your use of that argument too.

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      anytime the new deal is brought up

      The Pre-Nixon Era was defined by more than just the New Deal and the Great Society.

      to accelerate the decline mistakenly believing something better would replace it

      Understanding history is very different from advocating for “accelerationism”

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        Yet you do not indulge my question, give me one example that cannot be dismissed with your logic dismissing the new deal?

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            Lincoln did not even want emancipation at first, and grant was corrupt and let his admin loot the government, then abandoned reconstruction to jim crow in a deal to get to keep the 1876 election they stole from tillman for hayes.

            That republican party? Hardly.

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              Lincoln did not even want emancipation

              Lincoln campaigned at the head of an abolitionist party on the platform of halting slavery expansion in the territories and gradually phasing it out nationwide.

              After the civil war broke out, he saw rapid emancipation as a means of collapsing Confederate resistance. And in the immediate aftermath of the war, he was a full throated supporter of the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.

              What you’re saying is categorically untrue.

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                He did not support abolition until well into the civil war look it up.

                He removed missouri’s general or whatever keeping them from joining confeds for endorsing the idea in fact.

                Regardless that same party abandoned the former slaves to steal an election after rampant corruption.

                So any example of the civil war era is also disallowed by your logic. It was not perfect so therefore your example can be discredited.

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                  He did not support abolition until well into the civil war look it up.

                  He opposed the spread of slavery into Free States and made it a central message of both his Senate and Presidential bids.