• lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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    21 days ago

    We kind of need the Linux Foundation or Fairphone or similar to fork android or create a solid base for an alternative. Otherwise, we are screwed.

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        20 days ago

        Yes, but Google is probably happy to host their whole datacenter infrastructure on Linux and won’t have to buy expensive Windows server licenses and wants to keep it this way.

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          20 days ago

          The Linux foundation isn’t a competitor at all. It gets all of its funding from big tech

          They don’t develop something unless it is useful to these companies.

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            20 days ago

            I don’t think the Linux foundation is doing any development themselves. Linux is open source, so anyone can contribute. I think the Linux foundation is like a legal entity and marketing kinda thing. I could be wrong about this though.

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              20 days ago

              The individual members of the foundation most certainly do linux dev, which benefits their specific company. Think kernel or driver adjustments or supporting newer hardware for servers/datacenters.

              However, that doesnt mean its only the foundation doing the work, thats just the paid work being done. The rest is all passion projects of people

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        21 days ago

        AFAIK, LineageOS is not a fork but a version of Android that is built on top of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP).

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          20 days ago

          Yeah we’re boned, Everything we have Android like is AOSP based and as the changes happen, keeping them at bay will become unsustainable. Lineage, Graphine and Calyx are all AOSP based.

          For now, it will likely be pretty easy for any of the forks to circumvent this particular change. I’m more worried about the future, it wouldn’t be hard for them to start pushing store APK’s to require proprietary hooks, there’s a good chance that eventually people won’t want to keep around Google and non Google versions of apps.

          So you have Halium+VM for ~ ubuntu touch (still android drivers, but private)

          Or postmarket derivatives, which is real linux, but is barely functional and has miserable battery life.

          We’re playing catch up for linux and we can get there, but available phones are super limited and none of the contenders are solid daily drivers yet.

          Biggest problem I have is there’s no good way to run Signal. If you do it in Halium under waydroid it eats power and getting it to run/keeping it updated under arm/linux is a part time job.

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        20 days ago

        LineageOS has a great offering but you have to wait until your phone gets outdated because even hoping that it’ll be compatible with your model

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          20 days ago

          No you dont. Lineageos supports a lot of phones that are still supported by their manufactures. Hell my fp4 is still in support too, and lineageos runs fine on it :p
          Youre thinking of unofficial lineageos builds and ports to non-supported-by-lineageos phones