• venusaur@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    How common are hanging suicides for all men? Do we just no hear about other people doing it cuz it’s not sus?

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      6 hours ago

      Never believe that a black man being hanged is suicide until there’s evidence so clear that it’s irrefutable.

      The United States still has some dark fucking traditions.

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      7 hours ago

      I work in addiction recovery and listen to people share about suicidal ideation, and lost friends/family to suicide. A lot of people that contemplate life take into consideration the world they are leaving behind. Not wanting to burden others, further hurting or shaming family, or honestly leaving a mess - leads people to hanging.

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        13 hours ago

        Usually with a comment like that I wouldn’t reply like this but you’re very, very active in this thread.

        Any statistics on public suicided by hanging? Ideally per capita grouped by race.

        I had a look myself so I know this is a tall order but I thought it was worth seeing if someone has the info

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          I take the story personally and thats probably unhealthy… Shocking amount of suicide and denial of that suicide in my personal life. Anyway, I couldn’t get that data together specifically the way you wanted. Closest I could gather was a listing of public suicides over a ten year span 2013-2023.On average around 45,000 people commit suicide a year, about 12,000 of that by hanging. Public is where the numbers got more difficult but there is some info out there, I’ll post it below. Numbers below represent a single year based on averages from the 10 year span. So its not common but also nowhere near close to unheard of. I had an AI try to compile specifically hanging public suicides and it said between 10-15% of hanging suicides happen in public. I can include the prompts I used to get you there if you dont trust me. Sources it used were the CDC, National Center for Health Statistics and the National Violent Death Reporting System.

          Motor vehicle — 2,363.

          Natural area — 1,895.

          Street or highway — 1,209.

          Hotel or motel — 1,032.

          Park/playground/sports/athletic area — 719.

          Parking lot / public garage / public transport — 700.

          Jail or prison — 654.

          Commercial / retail area — 475.

          Bridge — 323.

          Railroad tracks — 285.

          Hospital / medical facility — 178.

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        17 hours ago

        In the US, gun is the most-common route.

        kagis

        https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html

        This says 55.33% of suicides in the US are with a firearm.

        I once went digging through death statistics on suicides. In Japan, firearms are hard to get, but there are tall buildings all over. Firearms deaths are down, but deaths by falling are way up.

        It’s very much a locational thing.

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          17 hours ago

          Yes your source supports my statement that its the second most common form of suicide in the US. New Mexico also happens to be the 5th leading state in number of suicides to population ratio.

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          17 hours ago

          I appreciate that. Part of why this particular case is so magnetic for me. It feels like people want to create a divisive conspiracy supported by no evidence. That way they can get some white people bad points. Rather than admit we have a massive mental health crisis happening. Everyone should be trying to help one another, not use a tragedy to divide eachother further.