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- cross-posted to:
- linux@lemmy.ml
- linux@programming.dev
This should be helpful for people that learned Photoshop in the past (for work or in school). From what I understand, a lot of the friction with GIMP is the workflow differences, and potentially unintuitive UI/UX choices.
tldr: recovering Adobe Photoshop user shows you features in the very free and very open source gnu image manipulation program :D
my relevant GIMP config files: https://github.com/BreadOnPenguins/dots/tree/master/.config/GIMP/3.0
GIMP documentation: https://www.gimp.org/docs/
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Krita is better and doesn’t have a non-professional, ableist name.
Could you please explain what you mean by “professional ableist name”?
GIMP is a slur for people with disabilities, therefore it isn’t a name many professional artists, nor those that care about ableism will like.
Thank you. I get that this can be problematic, but as a non english-native, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. GIMP is a transnational project after all and as I understand they try their best to be (all)inclusive. Getting hung up on the very well established name and outright demanding (in another comment), seems a bit silly to me. Were it a more serious slur, one that may be more timely relevant, I would feel the same, but given what I just described, I don’t feel that harsh about it.
Very hot take: I actually prefer it having that name, because it can lead to that term not being recognized as a slur by newer generations. When being asked “Whats a gimp?” they might then answer “An image processor.”. Would eliminate a whole slur. And with time it might even go so out of fashion it gets eliminated from dictionaries. Instances of this exact phenomenon happening include, in developing order: Dude, Yankee, Nerd. Or if you want a devolvement: Bully, which used to mean sweetheart. Language is like that. Let the slur die.
That aside, I do not feel that Krita is better than GIMP technologically. I prefer both.
Perhaps when the time comes to fork the project we can avoid a slur as a name? That would be nice.
Are you yourself affected by this? Maybe I, as a non affected person, am misjudging.
Perhaps when the time comes to fork the project we can avoid a slur as a name? That would be nice.
Sadly this was already tried and the developers of the fork were abused and harassed as foss and tech obsessives hate being called out for things and folks solving the problem themselves.
What I meant by “when the time comes to fork, let’s use another name” was not “let’s fork it for the sole purpose of rebranding”. For me a good reason to fork a project would be governance. “Hate forks”, whatever the fuck that made up phrase may be, cause division, so I absolutely understand why people would be against this. That being said, malicious branding is more often than not connected to bad governance, so that would be interesting to find out.
This seems to be quite the nuanced issue, so this will be the last I said, but I would be hella interested to see some more viewpoints on this.
“let’s fork it for the sole purpose of rebranding”
That wasn’t the only thing they did, the legitimately wanted to fix a lot of problems with the GNU Imp too.
so I absolutely understand why people would be against this
Nobody deserves harassment and abuse for changing the name of something.
You got the name of the fork? I’d be interested.
If they did change stuff technically whcih wouldn’t be adressed otherwise, then I don’t see a reason. Sounds like bad actors.
I did not even talk about harassment, that was you. But I agree, you shouldn’t harass people for this. Does not change that I am against hate-forks, which this did sound like at first.
The program started off as IMP, Image Manipulation Program. They added a G (General) to make it a reference to a character in Pulp Fiction.
The name’s history has nothing to do with ableism. Besides, not many artists care; look up what a “gimping machine” is :).
Words can have multiple meanings and context matters a lot. Besides its usage as a slur is pretty outmoded by now.
Well, it is still considered that by disabled people and that is who really matters in all this.
Until they drop the name, it’ll continue being considered unprofessional and not in good standing with those of us who care about disabled people, especially if we are disabled ourselves.
Feel free to be offended I guess.
PhotoGIMP is a godsend.
Sounds like a good resource, but I prefer documentation over videos for how-to guides. I’m glad you posted this, though, thanks.
She also recommends the documentation several times in the video, this is just an explanation of the features in comparison to ps
That’s really good. I just don’t watch videos, so…
I do understand that many, many people prefer how-to videos, so, like I said, I am very glad that this video exists.
As a life-long pirate, having full MS Office, Macromedia and Adobe packages weren’t ever a problem, but one day I decided to start using FOSS stuff… and man, getting into GIMP was damn painful, oh, the horror!
I’m very glad for photopea.com when I need to do some quick stuff, but for GIMP, this guy here made a very cool setup to help us Photoshop users https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMPThe same with Darktable and Lightroom.
Darktable is more powerful (a few thinhs missing though, like panos) but it’s UI is way different and super complex.
If you haven’t already, give RawTherapee a try. I can’t compare it to Lightroom, but I find it a lot easier to use than Darktable.
Every time I’ve tried gimp I walked away frustrated. I left photoshop behind long ago, only ever used it for messing around. But everything just kind of made sense. I felt like none of the skills I learned transferred to gimp, and I was always fighting against the design language.
I’ve saved this video to give a watch later, thanks for posting.
I had that in the beginning too. Once you’re used to the basics you’ll find that most of what you’ve learnt does transfer though.
I think part of the problem, at least for me coming from 20 years on photoshop, was searching for “how do I do this advanced technique in GIMP” before learning the basic layout/structure/tools etc.
YMMV but I highly recommend watching an hour or two of an introductory GIMP course. It’s what made it click for me.
I feel you.
I recommend checking photopea.com, it’s a very light photoshop webversion that can do almost everything photoshop can do, a very cool tool.This is proprietary (and running in a web browser does not make it less so)
